TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Zafer]

April is back on the menu boyz

Emphasizing that they aim to begin test flights with the KAAN prototype by the end of April, Demiroğlu announced that their exports exceeded 1 billion dollars last year, and that their target for this year is 1.5 billion dollars.

Milli savaş uçağı KAAN’da test uçuşu için tarih verildi

Haber 7 - Milli savaş uçağı KAAN prototipiyle test uçuşlarına başlamayı hedeflediklerini vurgulayan (TUSAŞ) Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, geçen ihracatta 1 milyar dolar üzerine çıktıklarını, hedeflerinin bu yıl 1,5 milyar dolar olacağını açıkladı.

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It is like losing the donkey and finding it back.

 

[Iskander]

April is back on the menu boyz

Emphasizing that they aim to begin test flights with the KAAN prototype by the end of April, Demiroğlu announced that their exports exceeded 1 billion dollars last year, and that their target for this year is 1.5 billion dollars.

Milli savaş uçağı KAAN’da test uçuşu için tarih verildi

Haber 7 - Milli savaş uçağı KAAN prototipiyle test uçuşlarına başlamayı hedeflediklerini vurgulayan (TUSAŞ) Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, geçen ihracatta 1 milyar dolar üzerine çıktıklarını, hedeflerinin bu yıl 1,5 milyar dolar olacağını açıkladı.

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The Russians have long suspected something, but now they are slowly beginning to guess
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"This will ensure independence from the capricious West": Turkiye unveils its domestically produced engine for the Kaan fighter jet.

The Turkish aircraft engine manufacturer TEI (TUSAŞ Engine Industry) has released the first official image of the TF35000 turbofan engine developed for the Kaan aircraft, positioned as a fifth-generation fighter jet.

The developer says that the TF35000, with a thrust of 15.8 tons, is one of Türkiye's most important breakthroughs.

As stated in the Turkish press, the country's new product of the defense industry "challenges existing jet engines in the West and symbolizes the transition to aviation dominance." In terms of thrust, it is equivalent to the Pratt Whitney F119 in the F-22 and surpasses products such as the EJ200 (26,000) in the Eurofighter Typhoon, the M88 (17-20,000) in the Rafale, and the F110 modifications used in the F-16 and F-15 (up to 29,000). Only the F135 engine in the F-35 surpasses the TF35000 with 43,000 thrust in afterburner mode...

...In a world where air superiority increasingly depends on those who possess power plants, a domestically produced engine will enable the country to take its rightful place on the international stage.

- This is the opinion in the Turkiye press.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...HhAWegQINRAB&usg=AOvVaw0jy1jHialrQNY1sqMcKKaa.
comments

 

[Yasar_TR]

When I read about FCAS problems I read only of the France-Germany problems regarding their interests. No mention of Spain's interests. In Spain's shoes I would be thinking of getting away from the other partners if I could see a way out. Some involvement in KAAN is a possible way out.

I guess that if FCAS folds in the next few months, Spain will be interested in any offer Turkiye makes. Apart from buying aircraft for its air force, what could Spain do as a partner to contribute to the success of the programme? What contribution do the current partners make?

Currently there are 3 so called partners in the Kaan project.
Azerbaijan : Involved in it financially.
Pakistan : Involved in the program with technical expertise and possible assembly line help.
Egypt : Probably some form of assembly and small parts manufacturing.

None of these “partners“ have the capability to add something new or significant to the project apart from money, partial cheaper labour and being potential final buyer. Depending on their contribution level they will probably get the Kaan at a reduced price level.

Pakistan has been manufacturing almost 60% of the JF-17 body in house. Also they have been testing and maintaining what they have assembled. They have an assembly line and engineers that know about a fairly modern jet fighter production. They can contribute and also learn from Tusas in return.

Spain too has been manufacturing the Typhoon’s right wing in house and have a final assembly line for their jets. They are also major contributor to the design and production of the EJ200 engine. Their ITP Aero company was a subsidiary of RR until recently. They were the people that designed and manufactured the TVC version of that engine as a prototype.
As well as financially, they can contribute technically too.

Kaan, is not Kaan until it is fully laden with all the tech, avionics, BURFIS and millions of lines of written data that is incorporated in it. What makes Kaan a 5th generation top dog is the culmination of all the knowledge, design intricacies, it’s new engine and it’s Aesa radar system all coming together.
You can’t just buy an empty shell of Kaan and use it as it is. It is not a trainer aircraft. It is the pinnacle of Turkish Aerospace engineering, finding a body in the form of Kaan. You have to buy it in it’s finished form.

 

[Huelague]

Currently there are 3 so called partners in the Kaan project.
Azerbaijan : Involved in it financially.
Pakistan : Involved in the program with technical expertise and possible assembly line help.
Egypt : Probably some form of assembly and small parts manufacturing.

I thought Qatar are financially involved.

I asks ChatGPT to render a final P4 Kaan version. It looks very pretty.

 

[Pilatino]

I thought Qatar are financially involved.

I asks ChatGPT to render a final P4 Kaan version. It looks very pretty.

Being it on! Share plz

 

[Huelague]

Being it on! Share plz

 

[Huelague]

The nozzle (TVC) is not correct and the canon is on the right side.

 

[Zafer]

Kaan test pilot flown Kaan the first time like he was flying it for years thanks to simulator training.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018992830296084929

 

[TR_123456]

Kaan test pilot flown Kaan the first time like he was flying it for years thanks to simulator training.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018992830296084929

He talkig about the first flight or what?

 

[Zafer]

He talkig about the first flight or what?

Yes he is, meaning simulator flight made him ready to fly Kaan very well.

My point is Kaan pilots should be fast tracked to Kaan skipping traditional lengthy training. With the Kaan smarts a healthy / fit individual can be trained to fly Kaan in a much shorter time than it usually takes for an F16 fighter. Pilot shortage shouldn't make a bottleneck ever again. Should be like driving a self driving car.

 

[boredaf]

Yes he is, meaning simulator flight made him ready to fly Kaan very well.

My point is Kaan pilots should be fast tracked to Kaan skipping traditional lengthy training. With the Kaan smarts a healthy / fit individual can be trained to fly Kaan in a much shorter time than it usually takes for an F16 fighter. Pilot shortage shouldn't make a bottleneck ever again. Should be like driving a self driving car.

Kaan is not self driving though, not yet, and perhaps not ever. And self driving cars are still not completely self driving and have caused plenty of accidents when people stopped paying attention.

It is beyond illogical to take one veteran pilot's works about how easy it was for HIM and turn it into "we don't need to train pilots properly to fly Kaan". Anyone who gets to fly it should take all the necessary steps of training beforehand and that'll still involved turboprop training, to jet trainer to simulator before tandem flights.

 

[mehmed beg]

Training jet fighter is lot more than just simply learning to fly. Or course, simulators and various things help but, learning the weapons systems, behaviour or avionics in the various scenarios, tactical flight profiles, cooperation with other flying assets and ground crews are necessary.
Of course, simulators speed up those processes and make them cheaper.

 

[Zafer]

Training jet fighter is lot more than just simply learning to fly. Or course, simulators and various things help but, learning the weapons systems, behaviour or avionics in the various scenarios, tactical flight profiles, cooperation with other flying assets and ground crews are necessary.
Of course, simulators speed up those processes and make them cheaper.

Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time
not a short path to readiness, Türkiye can afford it now but not ideal
if it was a short path to a pilot you can deploy many more in many locations
We need Somalian, Libyan and other nations' pilots to fly them in an affordable timeframe, similar to UAV pilots. We don't need pilots who know everthing but want to retire to be a passenger plane pilot. We have 18000 of passenger plane pilots by the way.

 

[Iskander]

KAAN Technical Specifications

Power source: 2 × General Electric F110-GE-129 afterburner turbofan (Planned for prototypes and 20 Block-10 production units) (In the future, a 36,000 pound-force engine produced by TEI under TR Motor license will be used.)
Thrust without afterburner: 2 × 17,155 pound-force (76 kN)
Thrust with afterburner: 2 × 29,400 pound-force (131 kN)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.8 (2,210 km/h; 1,190 kN)
Service ceiling: 55,000 feet (17,000 m)
G limit: +9g / -3.5g
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 34,750 kg [56]

These are the technical specifications of the KAAN with American engines.
The TF-35000 is significantly more powerful.
Have technical specifications of the KAAN with Turkish engines been published?

Or am I missing something?

 

[2033]

According to the President’s statements, we have invited Saudi Arabia to participate in the KAAN project.

I believe that with Saudi Arabia’s participation, the project would progress much faster and the risks would be reduced to a minimum. I hope Saudi Arabia joins the project.