TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

[Lool]

about 300km for 80%-20%

about 18kwh/100km

I think 15-16kwh/100km when 70-90km/h

18-19/100km in city or over100km/h on highway

And how does that compare to other EV competitors?

 

[B_A]

And how does that compare to other EV competitors?

The only rival of T10X/T10F in Turkey is the model Y Tesla, Tesla much advanced but T10x much easy to drive and comfortable

The Chinese cars(like byd atto3 or seal) always had good datas good looking and good features but very weak safety and structure.

As in 2025 the very high OTV,T10x/f is the best Cost-effectiveness new car in Turkey

I didn't count the ugly small EV like Hyundai Inster or BYD dolphin or MG4

And the very expensive EV like BMW

 

[B_A]

A basic T10x V1is 1.5 million
A almost full equipment T10x V2 is 1.9million(without the cam tavan or high Media system,you can choose one,if choose two,the otv will become 40% to 2.5 million)

A basic Tesla model Y is 1.9millon
With any upgrades it will come 2.5 or 3.5 million.

And I didn't like the style of Tesla which only one big iPad


We can see the car cheaper than T10x are ugly small cars

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www.arabalar.com.tr

 

[what]

Thanks for the Update. Btw I'm switching from Tesla Model 3 to Polestar 2 in 2 months.

 

[B_A]

Thanks for the Update. Btw I'm switching from Tesla Model 3 to Polestar 2 in 2 months.

Turkey is a special market

Btw Togg had large advantage in homeland but it need to much cheaper to fight rivals overseas

I don't like the looking and styles of Tesla and I hate Chinese car

But Japanese hybrid cars still a big rival in the world

 

[B_A]

Btw,we are still depend on Chinese battery technology

When will we develop a national battery technology?

Can the Japanese or Korean help us?

 

[Kitra]

Btw,we are still depend on Chinese battery technology

When will we develop a national battery technology?

Can the Japanese or Korean help us?

Every is dependent on Chinese batteries. They have invested heavily in the technology and are the largest producer with the most advanced technology.

 

[B_A]

Every is dependent on Chinese batteries. They have invested heavily in the technology and are the largest producer with the most advanced technology.

There are also Korean and Japanese like LG and Panasonic

 

[B_A]

Türkiye's domestic automobile brand Togg is entering the European market with the 2026 model T10X. The company announced that the model, which will go on sale in Germany at the end of this year, will be offered with a starting price of approximately 28,000 Euros.

Togg Goes on Sale in Germany for the First Time in Europe​

Following its success in the Turkish market, Togg is expanding into Europe. The first target is Germany. The 2026 model T10X will meet car enthusiasts in Germany at the end of the year. This development is considered an important step for both the Turkish automotive sector and the European electric vehicle market.

Attracts Attention with a Price of 28,000 Euros​

The starting price of the T10X, which will be available in Germany, has been determined as approximately 28,000 euros . This price is quite ambitious in terms of competition with both domestic and European electric cars.

Reason for price advantage:

• Relatively low domestic production costs
• Aggressive pricing policy when entering the European market
• Tax incentives for electric vehicles

Why Was Germany Chosen for the European Market?​

It's no coincidence that Togg chose Germany as his first stop:

• Germany is Europe's largest automobile market.
• There is high demand for electric vehicles.
• The density of the Turkish diaspora may increase interest in the brand.

What Do Expert Opinions Say?​

According to automotive industry experts:

• Service network and brand awareness are critical for Togg to be successful in the European market.
• In terms of price-performance balance, the T10X has a good chance.
• It is awaited with curiosity how the local brand will position itself in the European competition.

Togg Almanya Yolcusu: Fiyatı 28.000 Euro'dan Başlayacak!

Togg’un Almanya çıkarması netleşti. 2026 model T10X, yıl sonunda yaklaşık 28.000 Euro fiyatla satışa sunulacak.

www.borsametre.com.tr

With Google translate

 

[what]

Source?

 

[Hannibal]

€28,000 is good. They have a good chance of capturing market share if that price tag is true.

 

[Saithan]

They need to make sure to prioritize the Turkish market and win. As long as you got a strong base you can expand ourwards, but if you lose your home market, then abroad will just f.uck you up.

 

[B_A]

They need to make sure to prioritize the Turkish market and win. As long as you got a strong base you can expand ourwards, but if you lose your home market, then abroad will just f.uck you up.

They have to produce a cheaper car same size as Clio and replace all the Clios and I20s and Toyota Corolla

T10X is same class as Tesla Model Y and Xiaomi Yu7,a year 50k to 100k is the limit of Turkish market.

Now gasoline car is 80% OTV tax so after OTV CLIO were much expensive than T10X

https://www.arabam.com/blog/otomobil-inceleme/fiyat-listeleri/turkiyede-en-ucuz-sifir-otomobiller/

So a cheap TOGG which is 50%or 70% price of T10X can take the market

 

[hugh]

They have to produce a cheaper car same size as Clio.I20s and replace all the Clios and I20s

T10X is same class as Tesla Model Y and Xiaomi Yu7,a year 50k to 100k is the limit of Turkish market.

how is the autonomous features of the car(T10x)? do they have it? is it reliable?

 

[B_A]

how is the autonomous features of the car(T10x)? do they have it? is it reliable?

Not very good,only basic autonomous features.The auto parking also bad

But it s cheap(30000TL) and I think Turkish people dont like or Trust autonomous features .

 

[hugh]

Not very good,only basic autonomous features.The auto parking also bad

But it s cheap(30000TL) and I think Turkish people dont like or Trust autonomous features .

can it at least do a good of lane keeping?

 

[B_A]

Compare to Tesla Model Y and Xiaomi Yu7,

T10X is safe ,strong,comfortable and easy to drive and old fashion looking.

But lack the technology feature of other 2

That is good for our people,but the overseas people maybe love technology feature much.

 

[B_A]

can it at least do a good of lane keeping?

Can lane keeping and change lane,avoid crash and change the speed by itself

Also can moving in a traffic ram (of course it cant take the way in the istanbul street because if you only focus on safe you cant advance in turkish small street.....)

 

[hugh]

it can change lane by itself without you initiating it?

Compare to Tesla Model Y and Xiaomi Yu7,

T10X is safe ,strong,comfortable and easy to drive and old fashion looking.

But lack the technology feature of other 2

That is good for our people,but the overseas people maybe love technology feature much.

for reference,
a tesla model y delivered itself a few days ago. from factory to the owner's home. no one's on the wheel

 

[B_A]

it can change lane by itself without you initiating it?


for reference,
a tesla model y delivered itself a few days ago. from factory to the owner's home. no one's on the wheel

Yes it can can change lane by itself

TOGG lack the technology features of Tesla and the Car entertainment facilities and features and Speed of BYD SEAL or XIAOMI SU7/YU7