TR Navy Torpedo & Mine Programs

[Sanchez]

Akya's test fire against Gazal in late 2023 was made from a distance of about 10 kilometers and 54 firings of Akya were made from submarines to date.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919340316647154116

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946240410189283553

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946240410189283553

Looks to long to be Orka. New version of Akya?

 

[Strong AI]

Looks to long to be Orka. New version of Akya?

It is a new product.

A rising force of deterrence from the depths!

Making its debut at #IDEF2025!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946241063905059207

 

[Anmdt]

Looks to long to be Orka. New version of Akya?

That's a capsule. Though we don't know what will come out of that.

Afaik there are only 2 Torpedo projects; Orka and Akya.

Hopefully SAGE gets some clearance to show some underwater stuff.

 

[Strong AI]

That's a capsule. Though we don't know what will come out of that.

Afaik there are only 2 Torpedo projects; Orka and Akya.

Hopefully SAGE gets some clearance to show some underwater stuff.

Well, then i can only think about Gezgin, would be a really interesting way of revealing it.

 

[Anmdt]

Well, then i can only think about Gezgin, would be a really interesting way of revealing it.

Afaik that's not Gezgin's capsule, but who knows. Could be Sub-Atmaca IIR. or Sub-Kara.

 

[godel44]

It says it will break the back of enemy ships, so I think a torpedo of some kind. Hoping for a supercavitating torpedo...

 

[Strong AI]

It says it will break the back of enemy ships, so I think a torpedo of some kind. Hoping for a supercavitating torpedo...

SavunmaSanayiST says that, not Roketsan. Don't take that news site too serious.

Roketsan says this:

A rising force of deterrence from the depths!

 

[Anmdt]

It says it will break the back of enemy ships, so I think a torpedo of some kind. Hoping for a supercavitating torpedo...

It says - who says? Jack of all trades? They can't even distinguish a Capsule from Torpedo, yet dare to make it out, and lead people incorrectly.

Whatever that thing is; it has no propeller but pressurized air to propel, it doesn't have features of a supercavitating torpedo - nor that i believe this one will make a debut for this IDEF, it is a capsule. The question here is what they will launch from the capsule; My bet it is either Atmaca IIR / Hybrid or Atmaca Kara, or this is some form of a coastal defence.

 

[Strong AI]

It says - who says? Jack of all trades? They can't even distinguish a Capsule from Torpedo, yet dare to make it out, and lead people incorrectly.

Whatever that thing is; it has no propeller but pressurized air to propel, it doesn't have features of a supercavitating torpedo - nor that i believe this one will make a debut for this IDEF, it is a capsule. The question here is what they will launch from the capsule; My bet it is either Atmaca IIR / Hybrid or Atmaca Kara, or this is some form of a coastal defence.

Do you think it makes sense to have Kara Atmaca and Gezgin as an option for Subs? Because Kara Atmaca is classified as a cruise missile too like Gezgin. Wouldn't it be better to concentrate on Gezgin?

 

[TheInsider]

It is probably a capsule for sub-Atmaca, or it might be the smart capsule Roketsan has been working on.

 

[Strong AI]

Orka (left) and Akya (right) (when trying to paste pictures from pc, i think the pictures are too high res. I get an error message. Mostly no problem to paste from phone)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948316195863548341

 

[Tornadoss]

About the ORKA, most of the modern LWTs have a diamerter around 324 mm. Is there a reason ORKA is 275mm, It's more compact it's better, however if the diameter would be kept safe maybe it could have more range? Or is ranges after 15KM is not effective for usage of ORKA?

 

[Pokemonte13]

New Heavyweight torpedo with 100 km range and 1t thermobaric warhead

 

[fushkee]

This is a kind of naval version of Gazal thermobaric bomb?

 

[Fairon]

New Heavyweight torpedo with 100 km range and 1t thermobaric warhead

So we also have 2 heavyweight torpedo programs as well.(after two ramjet long range missile program)

I don't know what to say other than " ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "

 

[Samba]

So we also have 2 heavyweight torpedo programs as well.(after two ramjet long range missile program)

I don't know what to say other than " ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "

Better than nothing. So I am rather happy

 

[Yasar_TR]

New Heavyweight torpedo with 100 km range and 1t thermobaric warhead

A thermobaric bomb is essentially an oxygen user. It is specifically designed to operate in confined spaces where it can still access oxygen. And not suitable for underwater use.

However underwater explosions conducted that contain metalised aluminium with up to 40% boron have proved quite successful. And have provided higher degree of schockwave and detonation energy in underwater explosions than with conventional underwater bombs. Boron is the key ingredient here.

quote:
As the content of boron powders is increased, the heat of combustion of the metal mixtures increases, and the combustion efficiency of boron decreases. The highest value of the combustion heat is 38.2181 MJ/kg, with the boron content of 40%. All metallized explosive compositions (RDX/Al/B/AP) have higher detonation energy (including higher shock wave energy and bubble energy) in water than the TNT charge.
unquote.

Also hexogen-enriched novel hydrogen storage alloy has proven to have even higher explosive energy. Detonated underwater in a thremobaric fashion, this type of explosives have shown themselves to be even more destructive.

Quote:
hexogen-enriched novel hydrogen storage alloy can produce higher bubble energy than that enriched aluminum. The total useful energy was 4.7 % (160 g) and 6.4 % (500 g) higher than an explosive with the same aluminum content, and Trotyl (TNT) equivalent of 2.1 times. The heat of explosion test shows the similar result that the novel hydrogen storage alloy can improve the total energy, about 7.9 % higher than the aluminized.
unquote.

This shows that our R&D departments are not sitting on their laurels , and working hard to improve and better the munitions they already have as well as come up with novel ideas.
When you think of the fact that Akya has an explosive weight of 350-380kg; and this new thermobaric explosives carry a lot more explosive energy, and there is 1000kg of it.. plus 100km range…wow!!

Combustion heat of the Al/B powder and its application in metallized explosives in underwater explosions - Combustion, Explosion, and Shock Waves

An underwater explosion test is used to determine the detonation properties of metallized explosives containing aluminum and boron powders. An oxygen bomb calorimeter (PARR 6200 calorimeter, Parr Instrument Company, USA) is used to obtain the heat of combustion of the metal mixtures. As the...

link.springer.com

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07370652.2014.996271

 

[UkroTurk]

New Heavyweight torpedo with 100 km range and 1t thermobaric warhead

Torpedo with 100km range cool.
On the other hand sonars can't detect submarines over 50km. So could we say it is anti-ship torpedo?