Turkey, Armenia to appoint envoys in bid to normalize ties: FM

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Ah, I knew reconciliation this quickly was a mistake. Make no mistake, I was hoping to have Armenia be more friendly but f***s like the Armenian Revolutionary Federation? No, no, these people will become the same headache for Turkey that PKK is.

The key is to get the younger generations of Armenians and get them more friendly and cooperative towards Turkey before the dashnaks can get to them.

EDIT: And apparently the ARF has direct ties to Garegin Nzhdeh the Nazi collaborator.
 

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Oh, please...it's like a member of Genç Atsızcılar is talking in Azerbaijan against Armenians. So what?
Two totally different things, are suffering from Stockholm syndrome? Why should i stay quiet when someone who is the head of the Youth that is claiming parts of my country and Azerbaijan, glorifies terrorists and now meets with kurdish terrorist sympathizer in Turkey?

If you don't have a problem with it it's your problem, my moral compass is working fine...
 

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Why the fuck is this happening? The AKP needs to be dragged for this publicy. It is clear that this is being done by Erdogan to garner favor with Biden.

Turkey has zero reasons to normalize ties with an fascist state without any concessions from said state.
 

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Peace and stability are needed now. Normalisation is the wide. Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijcan and Armenia should join u economic union and they could all be richer than now.
 

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Well, it is an open secret that the pro-Western forces in Armenia are actually pro-normalization of the Armenian-Turkish relationship. These are the people who tend to support Nikol Pashinyan. Despite Turkey's ongoing conflicts with her Western partners, many Armenian citizens critical of Russia still believe that Turkey is their only real gate and escape rout to Europe and North America.

They want the borders to re-open as it is seen as the only sustainable solution to lower Russia's influence in the long term. Obviously, the Western world can't hardly wait to see this happening.

Weird thing is that the current Armenian leadership would bite the bullet but only if it is a Turkish one. Any policy, decision, step that can be perceived as caving in to Azerbaijani demands however is no option due to the immense public pressure in the Armenian diaspora. Turkey, on the other hand, can but won`t act on anything that hasn't been pre-approved by Baku.

The situation is messy.
Well looking at it from Armenian perspective what benefits did they have being pro Russian for a century now?
The Russians used them as cannon fodders against Turks since Ottoman times and when the push came they just followed their own interests which is why still many Armenians see things such as the treaty of Kars as a betrayal from Russians.
The last war hopefully opened their eyes that its better to get along with neighbors rather than hope for salvation from countries far away.

Lets just hope the Kurds will also realize one day that being the body guard of American oil is not gonna help them in any way.
 

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Well looking at it from Armenian perspective what benefits did they have being pro Russian for a century now?
The Russians used them as cannon fodders against Turks since Ottoman times and when the push came they just followed their own interests which is why still many Armenians see things such as the treaty of Kars as a betrayal from Russians.
The last war hopefully opened their eyes that its better to get along with neighbors rather than hope for salvation from countries far away.

Lets just hope the Kurds will also realize one day that being the body guard of American oil is not gonna help them in any way.

Armenians in Armenia have literally no saying their diaspora (Dashnak) is so strong they rule the country from France, USA and Russia.
The Kurds also doing the same things Armenians did 100 years ago, you can see their growing nationalism everywhere and their victim behaviour is also politicized... they will not change, the sooner the Turkish people understand the better.

Kurds also founded their own lobby group (AFK - American Friends of Kurdistan) in the US, if you follow them all on social media you can see how closely they work together with ANCA, HALC and HAF against Turkey. And then there comes the "Turkish Democracy Project" they refer themselves as nonprofit, non-partisan, international policy organization who also work closely with those foundations mentioned below.
Their council members are also really interesting people such as Joseph Liebermann, John Bolton, Jeb Bush... and Co-Funder is a Kurd who btw. is also a founding member of the "AFK" Abdulkader Diliman. Everyone of them cares dearly about Turkey.

ANCA (Armenian National Committee of America)
HALC (Hellenic American Leadership Council)
HAF ( Hindu American Foundation)
 

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Well looking at it from Armenian perspective what benefits did they have being pro Russian for a century now?
The Russians used them as cannon fodders against Turks since Ottoman times and when the push came they just followed their own interests which is why still many Armenians see things such as the treaty of Kars as a betrayal from Russians.
The last war hopefully opened their eyes that its better to get along with neighbors rather than hope for salvation from countries far away.

Lets just hope the Kurds will also realize one day that being the body guard of American oil is not gonna help them in any way.

Armenians constantly switched to whoever was the strongest.

Now you have naive ass Turks saying Greeks and Armenians need to come back to Turkey.

We have too many uncle toms. Turkey needs a malcom x to knock some sense into these people.
 
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Armenians in Armenia have literally no saying their diaspora (Dashnak) is so strong they rule the country from France, USA and Russia.
The Kurds also doing the same things Armenians did 100 years ago, you can see their growing nationalism everywhere and their victim behaviour is also politicized... they will not change, the sooner the Turkish people understand the better.

Kurds also founded their own lobby group (AFK - American Friends of Kurdistan) in the US, if you follow them all on social media you can see how closely they work together with ANCA, HALC and HAF against Turkey. And then there comes the "Turkish Democracy Project" they refer themselves as nonprofit, non-partisan, international policy organization who also work closely with those foundations mentioned below.
Their council members are also really interesting people such as Joseph Liebermann, John Bolton, Jeb Bush... and Co-Funder is a Kurd who btw. is also a founding member of the "AFK" Abdulkader Diliman. Everyone of them cares dearly about Turkey.

ANCA (Armenian National Committee of America)
HALC (Hellenic American Leadership Council)
HAF ( Hindu American Foundation)

Saying the truth is "racist".

Greeks, Armenians and Kurds are working day and night to hit us while we put our heads in the sand.

Hindus are going after us because we support Pakistan then again Hindus will support anyone who is Anti Islamic they havent forgotten their history.
 

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Saying the truth is "racist".

Greeks, Armenians and Kurds are working day and night to hit us while we put our heads in the sand.

Hindus are going after us because we support Pakistan then again Hindus will support anyone who is Anti Islamic they havent forgotten their history.
The HAF Hindu American Foundation works actually mostly against Pakistan but from time to time they also throw dirt on Turkey and always back the ANCA or HALC.

This has nothing to do with rascism, those are facts they don't even hide it.
 

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Oh, please...it's like a member of Genç Atsızcılar is talking in Azerbaijan against Armenians. So what?
How is it the same,this guy is talking against Türkiye in Türkiye?
Think again.
 

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The Armenian embargo hurts Armenia more than Türkiye so it is a logical step for them. They are dependent on cheap Turkish products.
 

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The Armenian embargo hurts Armenia more than Türkiye so it is a logical step for them. They are dependent on cheap Turkish products.
Now more than ever since Turkish Lira lost half of its valua against Armenian Dram since last year.

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Bruh... when even the currency of some isolated God forgotten country that got it's ass kicked in a war recently and has a population smaller than an Istanbul ghetto gains 100% against Turkish Lira. :D
 

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Bruh... when even the currency of some isolated God forgotten country that got it's ass kicked in a war recently and has a population smaller than an Istanbul ghetto gains 100% against Turkish Lira. :D
Its Lira thats loosing value so any other currency that can hold its value will increase compared to Lira, doesnt mean they have better economy or something, just that the monetary policy is not as fucked up as Turkey which is really not very hard to archieve these days.
 
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