Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

[emrachi]

Bypassing the agreement is to annul the agreement, if that is the plan (which has been rejected / denied by our government) than I agree. This is what I've been writing all the time.

With Lausanne treaty in craft the canal makes no sense. Either you change / annul the treaty or don't waste a lot of money on the canal.

Construction of the Canal will take time project can already start. The treaty can be adjusted when the conjuncture allows it you need to do it in most appropriate moment timing is important.

 

[emrachi]

Similar discussions were made about changing Hagia Sophia to a mosque alot of random and influential people were claiming it is impossible pointing the fact there will be severe backlash but you know Erdo just did it and nothing happenend the rest is history. I can imagine the same fate for this super duper treaty which is suppose to be untouchable.

 

[Nutuk]

Similar discussions were made about changing Hagia Sophia to a mosque alot of random and influential people were claiming it is impossible pointing the fact there will be severe backlash but you know Erdo just did it and nothing happenend the rest is history. I can imagine the same fate for this super duper treaty which is suppose to be untouchable.

Complete different and unrelated subject.

I was one of the persons against turning the Aya Sofya from museum into a mosque.

Why? Because right across the Aya Sofya you have the Sultan Ahmet mosque. There was no technical need for a second mosque, pure political decision while Aya Sofya was an important tourist attraction.


I regard the canal also in technical need and technically without abolishing Lousanne treaty it becomes an ultra expensive unnecessary

 

[emrachi]

Complete different and unrelated subject.

I was one of the persons against turning the Aya Sofya from museum into a mosque.

Why? Because right across the Aya Sofya you have the Sultan Ahmet mosque. There was no technical need for a second mosque, pure political decision while Aya Sofya was an important tourist attraction.


I regard the canal also in technical need and technically without abolishing Lousanne treaty it becomes an ultra expensive unnecessary

Hagia Sophia or Aya Sofya is not just a random mosque or historical structure. It is a holy place which has immense sentimental and spiritual value for the Turkish nation in particular and the whole Islamic world in general, it is a symbolic value that shows your sovereignty and independence and who still owns and controls Istanbul and even Türkiye. Such symbols are as important as the flag, religion and the history. You should never underestimate and simplify such values let alone remove it and If you do remove that then prepare for next symbols to be disputable or become questionable until there is nothing holy left any value to fight for anything that make a bunch of people a real nation.

It is same issue with the treaty this treaty simply means and shows you’re not 100% in contoll of your own sea passages but i believe as has been shown with Aya Sofia this treaty also will be removed to gain total sovereignty and independence of our seas.

 

[emrachi]

Tbh i don’t care about the technical aspects. Going by that logic countries with superiour conventional armies should technically not need WMD’s however in reality the countries with most advanced conventional armies possess the most of these WMD’s.

 

[Stuka]

With the Start of Spring Construction seems to have started again.
Apparently after a 6 Month Pause (Likely due to Winter and bad weather Conditions) the restart of construction can be seen from Space.

Left: Pic from 15.02.2022
Right: Pic from 15.04.2022

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There is progress.
Just 2.5 Months Later the first Bridge is being built. We can see the 2 Pillars for the Bridge

Location on Satellite images

I Have marked the road works. its pretty advanced already.
10Km in long road in various stage of Completion.

 

[Manomed]

There is progress.
Just 2.5 Months Later the first Bridge is being built. We can see the 2 Pillars for the Bridge

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Location on Satellite images

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I Have marked the road works. its pretty advanced already.
10Km in long road in various stage of Completion.

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My tax money.....

 

[Ryder]

My tax money.....

Seriously for decades even centuries kanal istanbul always got shelved.

Reasons were either technology, manpower or the will to do it. Then you have economic reasons then again Turkiyr has never been a big ass economy for decades which led to plans getting constantly shelved. I think Tayyip is either gambling on a project that could work for the short term or the long term or or we dont know behind the scenes.

Im really thinking the Turkish navy could benefit from this kanal as they can easily flank the enemy because the Bogaz is a bottleneck.

It would be shame if this project gets cancelled or shelved again.

Kanal Istanbul is not a new idea. Ottomans thought of it and Ecevit was serious about doing it.

 

[Ryder]

Tayyip could have invested in this kanal rather than a Presidential palace. If he ever thought about it.

Megaprojects are expensive.

 

[Zafer]

Tayyip could have invested in this kanal rather than a Presidential palace. If he ever thought about it.

Megaprojects are expensive.

And the whole country gets ruled from a villa house, such a shame.

 

[Ryder]

And the whole country gets ruled from a villa house, such a shame.

Kanal is more important

 

[Zafer]

Kanal is more important

The Canal will take billions of dollars of investment money while the Presidential House only takes millions.
MIT headquarters are no smaller then the Presidential House.
Defense Department's house will not be smaller than the Presidential House either.
Türkiye is doing what Türkiye is needing.
Canal İstanbul is being built regardless of other constructions, there is no problem.

 

[Lool]

There is progress.
Just 2.5 Months Later the first Bridge is being built. We can see the 2 Pillars for the Bridge

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Location on Satellite images

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I Have marked the road works. its pretty advanced already.
10Km in long road in various stage of Completion.

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What about the canal itself
Has the digging advanced?

 

[Xenon54]

There is progress.
Just 2.5 Months Later the first Bridge is being built. We can see the 2 Pillars for the Bridge

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Location on Satellite images

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I Have marked the road works. its pretty advanced already.
10Km in long road in various stage of Completion.

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Waste of money, the new government will stop this unecessary expensive project, the country is experience one of its worst crisis, there is no money for these vanity projects.

 

[TheInsider]

Canal Istanbul is a waste of money.

 

[Strong AI]

The first of the 6 bridges on the Kanal Istanbul, the Sazlıdere Bridge, has reached a height of approximately 90 meters as its supports have risen, surpassing the level at which the road will pass.

With a main span of 440 meters, the bridge will have a total length of 860 meters including the 210-meter side spans on both the right and left. With the approach viaducts, the total length will reach 1,618 meters. The bridge will feature 136 inclined suspension cables and 272 anchorage points. It will be open to traffic with 2x4 lanes. The bridge's platform width is 46 meters, and its diamond geometry design is notable. The bridge towers will rise to a height of 196 meters.

Çılgın Proje Kanal İstanbul'dan son görüntü!

Ekonomi - 'Çılgın proje' olarak bilinen Kanal İstanbul'daki 6 köprüden ilki olan Sazlıdere Köprüsü'nün ayakları yükselerek yolun geçeceği seviyeyi aşarak yaklaşık 90 metreye ulaştı.

ekonomi.haber7.com

 

[Scott Summers]

I always thought this project was cancelled ?

 

[CAN_TR]

Who are you gonna charge money when Russians start exporting their oil over the arctic ocean which is something that will happen in the near future.

 

[AlperTunga]

Again billions of dollars wasted just to satisfy the whims of one person. It is a shame. We need that money for Military projects and for more value adding industry and technology (chip development) investments.