TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Ryder]

The moment will come where they need our help and defend. Than we will remember this days.

We shouldnt help them.

 

[Heartbang]

couple thousand

How merciful of you!

I'd say a million at the very least!

 

[2033]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1817928677432152462

Eurofighter CEO Mezzanatto stated that Turkey wanted to buy 40-50 Eurofighters, but Germany blocked these attempts.

Italian CEO emphasized that the blockage may have been made due to Turkey's natural gas activities in the Eastern Mediterranean.

I disagree with the second paragraph

We buy Reis class submarines from Germany and we have not had any problems.

I think Germany will not support France-Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean. Germany is not happy with our presence in northern Syria and northern Iraq.

 

[Slayer]

There will always be wars. History has a habit of repeating itself. USA, Israel and the EU do NOT want to see Turkiye as a military and economic powerhouse because that means we can dictate our own foreign policy (remember when we denied the usa access to the second Gulf war? They still haven't forgotten). And even worse, competition on the international arms market.

 

[TR_123456]

We buy Reis class submarines from Germany and we have not had any problems.

You sure about that?

 

[Ryder]

There will always be wars. History has a habit of repeating itself. USA, Israel and the EU do NOT want to see Turkiye as a military and economic powerhouse because that means we can dictate our own foreign policy (remember when we denied the usa access to the second Gulf war? They still haven't forgotten). And even worse, competition on the international arms market.

How about time people woke up to the coffee.

People think Iran, China and Russia are only threats along with Arab countries to Turkiye while they love purposely to ignore the USA, EU and Israel.

They will never accept you as equals or apart of their race or even apart of their civilisation. People need to get this through their skulls.

Turkiye was only backed by the Usa and the Eu as a buffer against Russia. Now Turkiye has now outgrown its role that it is being treated as a threat to their interests.

People think its Erdogan that is the problem. Even if Erdogan is gone they still wont change their tune.

 

[Saithan]

Mate, you sound like a broken record. repeating the same stuff over and over again. I don't see anyone in this forum who considers most of the western countries as genuine allies.

We have interests and if they allign then we walk together for a while. Now Spain is and could possibly be considered the most friendly western ally we have atm. The Brits are playing their game "good cop, bad cop" (US, or with the help of some EU allies). etc. etc. etc.

All of that is done in the interest of keeping Türkeye within they reach or area of influence.

That's it.

 

[boredaf]

All of that is done in the interest of keeping Türkeye within they reach or area of influence.

They cannot afford the alienate us completely unless something radically changes, and that is not just because of Russia. The world has 2 spheres of influence right now, and if they kick us out of theirs completely, we would have no choice but to ally ourselves with the other. And that would cause Mediterranean to stop being a NATO lake, which would force them to commit extra resources, from all branches of their militaries, to a flank that wasn't there before, forcing them to go against Russia and China with weaker forces.

And another reason is that we are extremely integrated into all levels of NATO structure. Not just our military but some of our companies have done and are working on critical systems for them.

Let's also not forget, other than US military, nobody in NATO has as much experience as we do in actual war. "Thanks" to their support of terrorists and regimes around us, we've been actively fighting and improving ourselves for decades while most other NATO countries can barely keep their militaries functional. Forcing us to ally with China and Russia would be a catastrophic mistake for the West.