TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Rooxbar]

If you really think Israel will allow the sale and lose its qualitative edge, I have a bridge to sell to you.

yes the omnipotent israel.

 

[Hannibal]

yes the omnipotent israel.

 

[Sanchez]

If you really think Israel will allow the sale and lose its qualitative edge, I have a bridge to sell to you.

They failed to stop the Meteor sale to Egypt. Egypt finally will have modern long range AAMs after 40 years. I don't know whether we'll eventually get Eurofighters or Meteors with them but it won't be down to Israeli protests.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887918169576067438

So who's lying MOD or Spanish news.

I'm more inclined to believe Spanish news than our politicians, since they're incompetent.

I'm pretty damn sur they if ignored a wording that means we get shafted

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887918169576067438

So who's lying MOD or Spanish news.

I'm more inclined to believe Spanish news than our politicians, since they're incompetent.

I'm pretty damn sur they if ignored a wording that means we get shafted

We are discussing this news and same source since Monday. You even took part in that discussion. Why are you posting now the same thing again?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886507569537310850

“According to the Spanish newspaper @larazon_es , 40 Typhoon jets, the first 20 of which will be second-hand from the UK and the other 20 of which will be newly produced, are expected to enter service with Meteor missiles between 2026 and 2030.”


Not what we hoped for but also it’s a known fact that TurAF definitely need aircraft right now.

 

[Saithan]

I must have missed a post.

At the end of the day public purchase request are not state secrets and should be shared with public for scrutiny.

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887918169576067438

So who's lying MOD or Spanish news.

I'm more inclined to believe Spanish news than our politicians, since they're incompetent.

I'm pretty damn sur they if ignored a wording that means we get shafted

Bro, these were all discussed in previous pages.
This news you shared is wrong as the exact translation doesn’t mention any T1 Typhoons. Please see my post #4021 :

Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

Eurofighter T1 makes no sense as a rapid response, it has no air-to-ground capabilities. It has no AESA radar, the EW and mission computer is technologically 15-20 years old and will be EoL by 2030 at the latest. Who do you want to defend yourself against with this Aircraft? Every country...

defencehub.live

We can discuss and argue here all day and everyday. But we will get nowhere. I suggest you read last 3 pages related to this subject.

Also British themselves have stated that T1 planes can’t fire Meteor missiles. That is one of the reasons they are being retired. So there is a major contradiction in your shared so called news piece.

 

[Hannibal]

They will mostly likely acquire 20 T3 Eurofighters from RAF or Qatar + 20 new built T4

 

[Turkic]

They will mostly likely acquire 20 T3 Eurofighters from RAF or Qatar + 20 new built T4

Any claims for your T3 statement ?

 

[Sanchez]

New update on the Meteor sale during the weekly press briefing:

"MSB Sources: "We are planning to add Meteor missiles to our inventory as part of the Eurofighter Typhoon procurement project. Our priority is domestic and national weapons and systems. In this context, we are planning to strengthen our Air Force with the GÖKHAN air-to-air missile, which is equivalent to the Meteor missile we are developing. Until the GÖKHAN missile enters the inventory, the procurement of the Meteor missile continues smoothly together with the Eurofighter aircraft."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889963221962072378

 

[Fatman17]

142 Filo "Gazelle (Ceylan)" (TuAF)

Source: F-16.net

 

[Sanchez]

Per MoD Güler's latest words last week, 2 RAF Typhoons will visit Turkey on Dec 18, after joining a joint exercise in Qatar and land directly at Mürted/Akıncı.

İki Eurofighter 18 Aralık’ta Ankara’ya geliyor – Tolga Özbek

tolgaozbek.com

Reading into this a bit more, I'm puzzled and this visit might be a little more unusual than the rest.

Firstly, 2 aircraft are I believe 2 RAF Typhoons from the joint RAF/Qatari joint squadron No. 12, which was reformed to train Qatari pilots and crews after their purchase in the past. I think it has deployed to Qatar at no less than 3 times since it was reformed in 2018.

Piece also adds that these aircraft will be returning from Qatar after joining the Qatari/European joint exercise "Ferocious Falcon V", which Turkey also joined. But this exercise was in 2023, not 2024. Hence my thinking these aircraft were not just there for the exercise but deployed there temporarily as part of No. 12 squadron.

2 aircraft are FGR4s per Özbek. While complicated, a FGR.Mk4 is basically a single seater Block 5 EF2000 built under Tranche 1 updated with multi-role capabilities for ground strike and recce roles unlike earlier blocks.

FGR4s are the most capable of the RAF Tranche 1s but they are also to be retired in the following few years.

Per the piece, 2 aircraft will directly come to Mürted base, to home of TAI and not Eskişehir and Konya, which are the more popular airbases for joint exercises.

I think either we might see an update on the previously dispelled claim of HvKK buying ex-RAF Typhoons, or this might be the first of many visits to start a joint RAF/TurAF squadron to train Turkish pilots and crews like how RAF did with Qataris and how we recently did with Qataris in Qatar. Or maybe even both...

Thought it was interesting.

HvKK chief visited the 12 joint RAF/Qatari squadron as RAF chief's guest. (aircraft shown here however is from the 11 Squadron from the same base). I think they are actively studying creating a joint Turkish/RAF squadron for training. as we previously discussed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892882228771725313

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1893216202601689369