Turkish Military Stance in Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean

[Huelague]

 

[Sanchez]

Reported overflights, dogfights after 2 years, shows of force and Güler's recent bayram message from a barracks in Edirne. Seems region is going hot again.

Aegean tension as Turkish warplanes violate Greek airspace | eKathimerini.com

A group of armed Turkish warplanes violated Greece's airspace on several occasions Monday and became involved in a simulated dogfight with Greek jets sent to intercept them in a new sign of tension between the two neighbors.

www.ekathimerini.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2059614040331010550

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Is it a coincidence that all of this happens as the governments approval hits an all time low and opposition is getting disintegrated illegally?

It's all bs, just like Erdoğan's constant saber rattling at Netanyahu.

Hate to be so negative, but foreign policy has been reduced into a tool for domestic gain. You'll constantly hear about Somalia this, gas that, and for what real benefit? We're doing the US favors in return for being tolerated. Look at Syria. WE kicked out Iran and now Israel has free reign to do whatever they want. I'm tired of pretending like we're not part of the plan to reshape the middle east for US interests.

And now we're supposed to believe all the kind words Erdoğan says about Iran's resistance, all bs.

Even if we had 300 Kızılelma's right now, nothing would change. This government has made so many empty threats, destroyed the image of Türkiye, done politcal stunts that have absolutely destroyed our credibility and the value of the Lira.

PKK was on its last legs and once again it was saved at the last moment. Now it's recouping its losses whilst having more political power than ever before.

I don't believe a single thing this government says or does anymore.

Previously we would threaten war and it would be taken seriously. Now our neighbors are arming up and we can't do a single thing about it.

As pleased as I am with some defence industry developments, even they're not sacred to the effects of corruption, as we've seen with the YILDIRIMHAN and GÜÇHAN situation.

This trajectory isn't good at all.

 

[Oublious]

Is it a coincidence that all of this happens as the governments approval hits an all time low and opposition is getting disintegrated illegally?

It's all bs, just like Erdoğan's constant saber rattling at Netanyahu.

Hate to be so negative, but foreign policy has been reduced into a tool for domestic gain. You'll constantly hear about Somalia this, gas that, and for what real benefit? We're doing the US favors in return for being tolerated. Look at Syria. WE kicked out Iran and now Israel has free reign to do whatever they want. I'm tired of pretending like we're not part of the plan to reshape the middle east for US interests.

And now we're supposed to believe all the kind words Erdoğan says about Iran's resistance, all bs.

Even if we had 300 Kızılelma's right now, nothing would change. This government has made so many empty threats, destroyed the image of Türkiye, done politcal stunts that have absolutely destroyed our credibility and the value of the Lira.

PKK was on its last legs and once again it was saved at the last moment. Now it's recouping its losses whilst having more political power than ever before.

I don't believe a single thing this government says or does anymore.

Previously we would threaten war and it would be taken seriously. Now our neighbors are arming up and we can't do a single thing about it.

As pleased as I am with some defence industry developments, even they're not sacred to the effects of corruption, as we've seen with the YILDIRIMHAN and GÜÇHAN situation.

This trajectory isn't good at all.

What do you want a war? The next step is war, ther is no other way they want all the share off the cake. Let the status quo and play the game.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

What do you want a war? The next step is war, ther is no other way they want all the share off the cake. Let the status quo and play the game.

My point is, in the past when we threatened war, that threat was taken seriously. Both Greece and Syria in the 90s backed down completely.

Now Greece is more bold than ever and Southern Cyprus is arming up.

 

[Huelague]

Reported overflights, dogfights after 2 years, shows of force and Güler's recent bayram message from a barracks in Edirne. Seems region is going hot again.

Aegean tension as Turkish warplanes violate Greek airspace | eKathimerini.com

A group of armed Turkish warplanes violated Greece's airspace on several occasions Monday and became involved in a simulated dogfight with Greek jets sent to intercept them in a new sign of tension between the two neighbors.

www.ekathimerini.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2059614040331010550

Jews do not rule US politics only.

 

[nick.f76]

The law, "MAVI VATAN", in the light of International Law. - Hellenic Institute for Strategic Studies

Athanasios I. Dimitriadis. Member of ELISME.

elisme.gr

The law, "MAVI VATAN", in the light of International Law.​

"The main arguments of the Turkish side are two.

1. Islands do not have the right to an EEZ and a continental shelf.

2. It is not possible for a huge, landlocked country like Turkey not to have corresponding maritime rights in the region.

The second argument resembles, not to say that it is exactly the same, as the logic of Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, regarding "Living Space"!!! Of course, this goes against all common sense and of course every concept of international law.

Turkey's military mentality is governed by the certainty of victory. That is, it does NOT make any military move unless it is first certain that it will emerge victorious from it. Greater proof of what I am mentioning is its invasion of Iraq and Syria, which took place ONLY when these two states had disintegrated, see Iraq, or when they had a strong sense of Government instability, see Syria.

Turkey cannot claim that its maritime space is disproportionate to its land size, because it has accepted this fact by signing the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923."

 

[TR_123456]

2. It is not possible for a huge, landlocked country like Turkey not to have corresponding maritime rights in the region.

How is Türkiye a landlocked country?

 

[fushkee]

After seeing “…landlocked country like Turkey…” I stopped reading

 

[mTT]

The law, "MAVI VATAN", in the light of International Law. - Hellenic Institute for Strategic Studies

Athanasios I. Dimitriadis. Member of ELISME.

elisme.gr

The law, "MAVI VATAN", in the light of International Law.​

"The main arguments of the Turkish side are two.

1. Islands do not have the right to an EEZ and a continental shelf.

2. It is not possible for a huge, landlocked country like Turkey not to have corresponding maritime rights in the region.

The second argument resembles, not to say that it is exactly the same, as the logic of Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, regarding "Living Space"!!! Of course, this goes against all common sense and of course every concept of international law.

Turkey's military mentality is governed by the certainty of victory. That is, it does NOT make any military move unless it is first certain that it will emerge victorious from it. Greater proof of what I am mentioning is its invasion of Iraq and Syria, which took place ONLY when these two states had disintegrated, see Iraq, or when they had a strong sense of Government instability, see Syria.

Turkey cannot claim that its maritime space is disproportionate to its land size, because it has accepted this fact by signing the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923."

Greece invokes the 12-mile provision of UNCLOS — a convention to which Turkey is not a party — against Turkey under the banner of “international law,” while ignoring the island statuses established by treaties to which Greece itself is a party. This is not a defense of law; it is sanctifying the clauses that serve its interests while disregarding those that do not.

Considering how easily Turkish cultural elements are rebranded as “Greek” whenever convenient, perhaps the next step will be to claim that the Blue Homeland was discovered by some ancient philosopher too.

 

[mTT]

After seeing “…landlocked country like Turkey…” I stopped reading

Even Poseidon would rise from the sea and say: “Treating Türkiye — a country with coastlines on the Black Sea, the Aegean, and the Mediterranean — as if it were landlocked? Congratulations, you have invented a new kind of law that denies the existence of the seas themselves.”

 

[nick.f76]

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans (and your military strength and your military industry).

October 28 1940. What was the military strength of Greece and the military strength of Italy? In the end Germany had to come help the army of Italy.

Αγ.Παΐσιος: Οι προφητείες του για τον Γ' Π.Π., την Τουρκία και την Πόλη - Aftodioikisi.gr

οι αναφορές που αποδίδονται στον Άγιο Παΐσιο σχετικά με τις ελληνοτουρκικές σχέσεις, τα «εξαμίλια» στο Αιγαίο, τον Βόσπορο

www.aftodioikisi.gr

Saint Paisios: His prophecies about World War III, Turkey and Constantinople

"Turkey will be dissolved, and in fact, it will be dissolved by the allies themselves. The Turks have the kollyva in their belt," said Saint Paisios in 1991.

Saint Cosmas the Aetolian was right when he said about the six miles because the Examilia, explains Elder Paisios, are now neither villages nor cities but are the six nautical miles. The 6-mile zone, territorial waters, that surrounds the coast of Greece and each of our islands. Examilia is every point that is six miles from the coast of Greece in land and island areas. This also includes the zone of territorial waters of Greece-Turkey. So there will be what Saint Cosmas the Aetolian said about the Turks and the kollyvas in their belt.

“When the Turkish fleet starts heading towards Greece and reaches six miles, it will indeed be destroyed. It will be the time when they will have their scythes in their belts, but this will not be done by us Greeks.”

“This is God’s will! The six miles will be the beginning of the end!”

“Then all the events that will lead to our taking the City will begin.”

“Constantinople will be given to us!”

“There will be a war between Russia and Turkey. At first, the Turks will think they are winning, but this will be their destruction. The Russians will eventually defeat the Turks and the City (Constantinople) will fall into their hands.”

“The Turks will be destroyed, they will be wiped off the map because they are a nation that did not arise from the blessing of God. Of the Turks, one third will go where they started, to the depths of Asia. One third will be saved because they will have been Christianized and the last 1/3 will be killed in this war with Turkey.

“Turkey will be divided into three or four parts and the countdown has already begun. We Greeks will take our own lands from Turkey, the Armenians theirs and the Kurds theirs. The Kurdish issue has already been set in motion.”

and Saint Paisios continues about Turkey:

“These things will happen not now but soon, when this generation that is ruling Turkey ceases and a new generation of politicians takes over. Then the division of Turkey will take place.”

“The British and Americans will give us Constantinople! Not because they love us but because it will be in their interests.”

“The Turks will only make one provocation to Greece that will be related to the coastal zone (see the image above with the 6 miles) and we will go hungry.”

“Greece will go hungry and this storm will last for a while, a few months.”

“When you hear on television the issue of miles being discussed for the expansion of the coastal zone from 6 to 12 miles, then the war with the Turks is coming from behind. After the provocation of the Turks, the Russians will descend the straits (Bosphorus) to participate in the war.”

Not to help us Greeks. They will have other interests but without wanting to, they will help us. Then the Turks, in order to defend the Bosphorus straits, which are of strategic importance, will gather other troops there. At the same time, they will withdraw forces from conquered territories.

“But then the other states of Europe, and more specifically: England, France, Italy and 6-7 other EEC states, will see that Russia will seize territory. So they will say, let’s go there too, so we take a piece of land too.”

“But everyone will chase the lion’s share. That’s how the Europeans will enter the war with Turkey. The Greek government will decide not to send troops. It will only keep troops on the borders with Turkey and it will be a great blessing that it will not take part in this war.”

Because whoever takes part in this European war… Is lost!”

“It will not be long after the Turks attack our country and then the Russians will attack the Turks and disperse them. Just as a sheet of paper that you strike and disperses, so the Turks will disperse.”

1/3 of the Turks will be killed, 1/3 will become Christians and 1/3 will go to the depths of Asia.

When will the war begin according to Paisios:

“The use of the Euphrates Waters for irrigation projects by the Turks will be a warning that the preparation for the great war that will follow has begun.” and continues..

“After the disintegration of Turkey, Russia will continue the war up to the Persian Gulf and its troops will stop outside Jerusalem. Then the Western powers (America, Europe and England) will give the Russians a deadline to withdraw their troops from these places!

"As long as it takes to grow cabbages, that is, 6 months. But Russia will not withdraw its forces and then the Western powers will begin to gather troops to attack the Russians. The war that will break out will be global and will result in the Russians losing. A great slaughter will follow and the big cities will be turned into slums."

"We Greeks will not participate in the World War! Our administration of Constantinople will be both military and political"

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans (and your military strength and your military industry).

October 28 1940. What was the military strength of Greece and the military strength of Italy? In the end Germany had to come help the army of Italy.

Αγ.Παΐσιος: Οι προφητείες του για τον Γ' Π.Π., την Τουρκία και την Πόλη - Aftodioikisi.gr

οι αναφορές που αποδίδονται στον Άγιο Παΐσιο σχετικά με τις ελληνοτουρκικές σχέσεις, τα «εξαμίλια» στο Αιγαίο, τον Βόσπορο

www.aftodioikisi.gr

Saint Paisios: His prophecies about World War III, Turkey and Constantinople

"Turkey will be dissolved, and in fact, it will be dissolved by the allies themselves. The Turks have the kollyva in their belt," said Saint Paisios in 1991.

Saint Cosmas the Aetolian was right when he said about the six miles because the Examilia, explains Elder Paisios, are now neither villages nor cities but are the six nautical miles. The 6-mile zone, territorial waters, that surrounds the coast of Greece and each of our islands. Examilia is every point that is six miles from the coast of Greece in land and island areas. This also includes the zone of territorial waters of Greece-Turkey. So there will be what Saint Cosmas the Aetolian said about the Turks and the kollyvas in their belt.

“When the Turkish fleet starts heading towards Greece and reaches six miles, it will indeed be destroyed. It will be the time when they will have their scythes in their belts, but this will not be done by us Greeks.”

“This is God’s will! The six miles will be the beginning of the end!”

“Then all the events that will lead to our taking the City will begin.”

“Constantinople will be given to us!”

“There will be a war between Russia and Turkey. At first, the Turks will think they are winning, but this will be their destruction. The Russians will eventually defeat the Turks and the City (Constantinople) will fall into their hands.”

“The Turks will be destroyed, they will be wiped off the map because they are a nation that did not arise from the blessing of God. Of the Turks, one third will go where they started, to the depths of Asia. One third will be saved because they will have been Christianized and the last 1/3 will be killed in this war with Turkey.

“Turkey will be divided into three or four parts and the countdown has already begun. We Greeks will take our own lands from Turkey, the Armenians theirs and the Kurds theirs. The Kurdish issue has already been set in motion.”

and Saint Paisios continues about Turkey:

“These things will happen not now but soon, when this generation that is ruling Turkey ceases and a new generation of politicians takes over. Then the division of Turkey will take place.”

“The British and Americans will give us Constantinople! Not because they love us but because it will be in their interests.”

“The Turks will only make one provocation to Greece that will be related to the coastal zone (see the image above with the 6 miles) and we will go hungry.”

“Greece will go hungry and this storm will last for a while, a few months.”

“When you hear on television the issue of miles being discussed for the expansion of the coastal zone from 6 to 12 miles, then the war with the Turks is coming from behind. After the provocation of the Turks, the Russians will descend the straits (Bosphorus) to participate in the war.”

Not to help us Greeks. They will have other interests but without wanting to, they will help us. Then the Turks, in order to defend the Bosphorus straits, which are of strategic importance, will gather other troops there. At the same time, they will withdraw forces from conquered territories.

“But then the other states of Europe, and more specifically: England, France, Italy and 6-7 other EEC states, will see that Russia will seize territory. So they will say, let’s go there too, so we take a piece of land too.”

“But everyone will chase the lion’s share. That’s how the Europeans will enter the war with Turkey. The Greek government will decide not to send troops. It will only keep troops on the borders with Turkey and it will be a great blessing that it will not take part in this war.”

Because whoever takes part in this European war… Is lost!”

“It will not be long after the Turks attack our country and then the Russians will attack the Turks and disperse them. Just as a sheet of paper that you strike and disperses, so the Turks will disperse.”

1/3 of the Turks will be killed, 1/3 will become Christians and 1/3 will go to the depths of Asia.

When will the war begin according to Paisios:

“The use of the Euphrates Waters for irrigation projects by the Turks will be a warning that the preparation for the great war that will follow has begun.” and continues..

“After the disintegration of Turkey, Russia will continue the war up to the Persian Gulf and its troops will stop outside Jerusalem. Then the Western powers (America, Europe and England) will give the Russians a deadline to withdraw their troops from these places!

"As long as it takes to grow cabbages, that is, 6 months. But Russia will not withdraw its forces and then the Western powers will begin to gather troops to attack the Russians. The war that will break out will be global and will result in the Russians losing. A great slaughter will follow and the big cities will be turned into slums."

"We Greeks will not participate in the World War! Our administration of Constantinople will be both military and political"

Wake up to reality, this is the real world. Prophecies, religious "right to rule", etc are all the sign of a disillusioned people destined for failure.

I guess Greeks are just a Christian version of most of the Muslim world, waiting for some prophecy rather than actually putting in the effort to improve. I guess it's an impossible situation anyway, so you're better off making peace.

 

[boredaf]

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans (and your military strength and your military industry).

October 28 1940. What was the military strength of Greece and the military strength of Italy? In the end Germany had to come help the army of Italy.

Αγ.Παΐσιος: Οι προφητείες του για τον Γ' Π.Π., την Τουρκία και την Πόλη - Aftodioikisi.gr

οι αναφορές που αποδίδονται στον Άγιο Παΐσιο σχετικά με τις ελληνοτουρκικές σχέσεις, τα «εξαμίλια» στο Αιγαίο, τον Βόσπορο

www.aftodioikisi.gr

Saint Paisios: His prophecies about World War III, Turkey and Constantinople

"Turkey will be dissolved, and in fact, it will be dissolved by the allies themselves. The Turks have the kollyva in their belt," said Saint Paisios in 1991.

Saint Cosmas the Aetolian was right when he said about the six miles because the Examilia, explains Elder Paisios, are now neither villages nor cities but are the six nautical miles. The 6-mile zone, territorial waters, that surrounds the coast of Greece and each of our islands. Examilia is every point that is six miles from the coast of Greece in land and island areas. This also includes the zone of territorial waters of Greece-Turkey. So there will be what Saint Cosmas the Aetolian said about the Turks and the kollyvas in their belt.

“When the Turkish fleet starts heading towards Greece and reaches six miles, it will indeed be destroyed. It will be the time when they will have their scythes in their belts, but this will not be done by us Greeks.”

“This is God’s will! The six miles will be the beginning of the end!”

“Then all the events that will lead to our taking the City will begin.”

“Constantinople will be given to us!”

“There will be a war between Russia and Turkey. At first, the Turks will think they are winning, but this will be their destruction. The Russians will eventually defeat the Turks and the City (Constantinople) will fall into their hands.”

“The Turks will be destroyed, they will be wiped off the map because they are a nation that did not arise from the blessing of God. Of the Turks, one third will go where they started, to the depths of Asia. One third will be saved because they will have been Christianized and the last 1/3 will be killed in this war with Turkey.

“Turkey will be divided into three or four parts and the countdown has already begun. We Greeks will take our own lands from Turkey, the Armenians theirs and the Kurds theirs. The Kurdish issue has already been set in motion.”

and Saint Paisios continues about Turkey:

“These things will happen not now but soon, when this generation that is ruling Turkey ceases and a new generation of politicians takes over. Then the division of Turkey will take place.”

“The British and Americans will give us Constantinople! Not because they love us but because it will be in their interests.”

“The Turks will only make one provocation to Greece that will be related to the coastal zone (see the image above with the 6 miles) and we will go hungry.”

“Greece will go hungry and this storm will last for a while, a few months.”

“When you hear on television the issue of miles being discussed for the expansion of the coastal zone from 6 to 12 miles, then the war with the Turks is coming from behind. After the provocation of the Turks, the Russians will descend the straits (Bosphorus) to participate in the war.”

Not to help us Greeks. They will have other interests but without wanting to, they will help us. Then the Turks, in order to defend the Bosphorus straits, which are of strategic importance, will gather other troops there. At the same time, they will withdraw forces from conquered territories.

“But then the other states of Europe, and more specifically: England, France, Italy and 6-7 other EEC states, will see that Russia will seize territory. So they will say, let’s go there too, so we take a piece of land too.”

“But everyone will chase the lion’s share. That’s how the Europeans will enter the war with Turkey. The Greek government will decide not to send troops. It will only keep troops on the borders with Turkey and it will be a great blessing that it will not take part in this war.”

Because whoever takes part in this European war… Is lost!”

“It will not be long after the Turks attack our country and then the Russians will attack the Turks and disperse them. Just as a sheet of paper that you strike and disperses, so the Turks will disperse.”

1/3 of the Turks will be killed, 1/3 will become Christians and 1/3 will go to the depths of Asia.

When will the war begin according to Paisios:

“The use of the Euphrates Waters for irrigation projects by the Turks will be a warning that the preparation for the great war that will follow has begun.” and continues..

“After the disintegration of Turkey, Russia will continue the war up to the Persian Gulf and its troops will stop outside Jerusalem. Then the Western powers (America, Europe and England) will give the Russians a deadline to withdraw their troops from these places!

"As long as it takes to grow cabbages, that is, 6 months. But Russia will not withdraw its forces and then the Western powers will begin to gather troops to attack the Russians. The war that will break out will be global and will result in the Russians losing. A great slaughter will follow and the big cities will be turned into slums."

"We Greeks will not participate in the World War! Our administration of Constantinople will be both military and political"

Seek help lad, you sound utterly insane.

 

[Lool]

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans (and your military strength and your military industry).

October 28 1940. What was the military strength of Greece and the military strength of Italy? In the end Germany had to come help the army of Italy.

Αγ.Παΐσιος: Οι προφητείες του για τον Γ' Π.Π., την Τουρκία και την Πόλη - Aftodioikisi.gr

οι αναφορές που αποδίδονται στον Άγιο Παΐσιο σχετικά με τις ελληνοτουρκικές σχέσεις, τα «εξαμίλια» στο Αιγαίο, τον Βόσπορο

www.aftodioikisi.gr

Saint Paisios: His prophecies about World War III, Turkey and Constantinople

"Turkey will be dissolved, and in fact, it will be dissolved by the allies themselves. The Turks have the kollyva in their belt," said Saint Paisios in 1991.

Saint Cosmas the Aetolian was right when he said about the six miles because the Examilia, explains Elder Paisios, are now neither villages nor cities but are the six nautical miles. The 6-mile zone, territorial waters, that surrounds the coast of Greece and each of our islands. Examilia is every point that is six miles from the coast of Greece in land and island areas. This also includes the zone of territorial waters of Greece-Turkey. So there will be what Saint Cosmas the Aetolian said about the Turks and the kollyvas in their belt.

“When the Turkish fleet starts heading towards Greece and reaches six miles, it will indeed be destroyed. It will be the time when they will have their scythes in their belts, but this will not be done by us Greeks.”

“This is God’s will! The six miles will be the beginning of the end!”

“Then all the events that will lead to our taking the City will begin.”

“Constantinople will be given to us!”

“There will be a war between Russia and Turkey. At first, the Turks will think they are winning, but this will be their destruction. The Russians will eventually defeat the Turks and the City (Constantinople) will fall into their hands.”

“The Turks will be destroyed, they will be wiped off the map because they are a nation that did not arise from the blessing of God. Of the Turks, one third will go where they started, to the depths of Asia. One third will be saved because they will have been Christianized and the last 1/3 will be killed in this war with Turkey.

“Turkey will be divided into three or four parts and the countdown has already begun. We Greeks will take our own lands from Turkey, the Armenians theirs and the Kurds theirs. The Kurdish issue has already been set in motion.”

and Saint Paisios continues about Turkey:

“These things will happen not now but soon, when this generation that is ruling Turkey ceases and a new generation of politicians takes over. Then the division of Turkey will take place.”

“The British and Americans will give us Constantinople! Not because they love us but because it will be in their interests.”

“The Turks will only make one provocation to Greece that will be related to the coastal zone (see the image above with the 6 miles) and we will go hungry.”

“Greece will go hungry and this storm will last for a while, a few months.”

“When you hear on television the issue of miles being discussed for the expansion of the coastal zone from 6 to 12 miles, then the war with the Turks is coming from behind. After the provocation of the Turks, the Russians will descend the straits (Bosphorus) to participate in the war.”

Not to help us Greeks. They will have other interests but without wanting to, they will help us. Then the Turks, in order to defend the Bosphorus straits, which are of strategic importance, will gather other troops there. At the same time, they will withdraw forces from conquered territories.

“But then the other states of Europe, and more specifically: England, France, Italy and 6-7 other EEC states, will see that Russia will seize territory. So they will say, let’s go there too, so we take a piece of land too.”

“But everyone will chase the lion’s share. That’s how the Europeans will enter the war with Turkey. The Greek government will decide not to send troops. It will only keep troops on the borders with Turkey and it will be a great blessing that it will not take part in this war.”

Because whoever takes part in this European war… Is lost!”

“It will not be long after the Turks attack our country and then the Russians will attack the Turks and disperse them. Just as a sheet of paper that you strike and disperses, so the Turks will disperse.”

1/3 of the Turks will be killed, 1/3 will become Christians and 1/3 will go to the depths of Asia.

When will the war begin according to Paisios:

“The use of the Euphrates Waters for irrigation projects by the Turks will be a warning that the preparation for the great war that will follow has begun.” and continues..

“After the disintegration of Turkey, Russia will continue the war up to the Persian Gulf and its troops will stop outside Jerusalem. Then the Western powers (America, Europe and England) will give the Russians a deadline to withdraw their troops from these places!

"As long as it takes to grow cabbages, that is, 6 months. But Russia will not withdraw its forces and then the Western powers will begin to gather troops to attack the Russians. The war that will break out will be global and will result in the Russians losing. A great slaughter will follow and the big cities will be turned into slums."

"We Greeks will not participate in the World War! Our administration of Constantinople will be both military and political"

You know whats really funny?
Armenia said the same thing about karabagh and we saw where that ended.

Armenians said they were the chosen ones and that all their "promised" lands are theirs and soon God will expel the "filthy" race; i-e, Turks only for the Armenians to get razed within 3 months of fighting against the same so-called filthy race

Please stop mixing religion with your wet dreams since such shenanigans tend to appear a lot