Turkish Military Stance in Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean

[Saithan]

France declared NOTAM over the whole Island of Cyprus and the Area arround. It looks like that France rent the naval Base in Mari, southern Cyprus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1871619131323429219

Tweet is not visible, did it get deleted ?

 

[Oublious]

Is this possible? that means nothing can enter that area including dumb greeks.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Tweet is not visible, did it get deleted ?

Yes, it got deleted

 

[TR_123456]

France declared NOTAM over the whole Island of Cyprus and the Area arround. It looks like that France rent the naval Base in Mari, southern Cyprus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1871619131323429219

France cant do that over Cyprus.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

France cant do that over Cyprus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1871111061807526235

Here it look like it is over the whole Island. I don't know exactly if the NOTAM from the first Tweet is related to french Military.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867522664459321665

 

[Huelague]

Which are the 12 islands we want back from Greece?

 

[Saithan]

I don't agree on that. I think it's an interesting POV and opinion. What is important is a country doing necessary moves to counter such political moves. Not making any moves is the same as admitting they have no moves aka cards in our hands to play.

Alas the king is naked.

 

[mTT]

I don't agree on that. I think it's an interesting POV and opinion. What is important is a country doing necessary moves to counter such political moves. Not making any moves is the same as admitting they have no moves aka cards in our hands to play.

Alas the king is naked.

You have the same views as nordicmonitor news portal?

 

[Saithan]

You have the same views as nordicmonitor news portal?

No, but we're an open forum and should be grown up enough to accept that others have their own opinions.

I mean what did Türkiye do when the Greek came sailing all the way to our coast ?

 

[mTT]

No, but we're an open forum and should be grown up enough to accept that others have their own opinions.

Spoiler: FREEDOM

Read an ISIS newspaper in a cafe on the stroget street in Copenhagen, Denmark, and when someone comes up to you, use the words “different opinions”, “free world”, ‘freedom’, “democracy” to describe yourself.

The author of that article is a FETO deserter.

 

[TR_123456]

Articles from ''Nordic Monitor'' are not allowed on the forum!

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1918967494577996172

Turkey and Pakistan have good Relations and the Militaries aare also working together. From this Point Turkey can benefit from pakistani Experiences with indian Rafale in Case of a War in the Aegean.

 

[TR_123456]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1918967494577996172

Turkey and Pakistan have good Relations and the Militaries aare also working together. From this Point Turkey can benefit from pakistani Experiences with indian Rafale in Case of a War in the Aegean.

Thats bs,we already know how to do everything against the Greek Rafales from exercises with the Qatari Rafales.
And who says Pakistan didnt use Turkish equipment to jam those Indian Rafales(if true,not confirmed).

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Thats bs,we already know how to do everything against the Greek Rafales from exercises with the Qatari Rafales.
And who says Pakistan didnt use Turkish equipment to jam those Indian Rafales(if true,not confirmed).

Maybe, I thought also the same Way. On the other Side I don't know which EW Equippment Pakistan has recieved from Turkey.

 

[nick.f76]

Τι σηµαίνει ο άξονας Κίνα - Πακιστάν - Τουρκία

Μενέλαος Τασιόπουλος - Άρθρο γνώμης

www.parapolitika.gr

China's strategic, energy, trade and transit priorities from East to West pass through West Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean to Europe.
In the past decade, China has gradually gained full influence over Islamic Pakistan, even its ports. At the same time, the US strategy has gradually shifted towards India, which today, for the Americans and their allies in the Mediterranean and the Middle East, constitutes and is proclaimed as the “new China”. However, Beijing, reacting to the famous “Abraham Accords” of the first Trump period, has gradually managed to gain control over the absolutely ambitious but economically and fiscally unstable and problematic Turkey. At this stage, and while the new heated conflict between Pakistan and India has developed, the American intelligence services have felt strong discomfort over the fact that Turkey, discreetly, was supplying its close ally Pakistan with specific military equipment. The following period of time will make it more clearly understood that the traditional confrontation between Greece and Turkey over nautical miles and EEZs will acquire additional content. Also, the issue of the militarization of the Greek islands in the Aegean. The conflict of the China-Pakistan-Turkey axis with the IMEC countries from Greece to India will determine developments and will judge strategic alliances.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Τι σηµαίνει ο άξονας Κίνα - Πακιστάν - Τουρκία

Μενέλαος Τασιόπουλος - Άρθρο γνώμης

www.parapolitika.gr

China's strategic, energy, trade and transit priorities from East to West pass through West Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean to Europe.
In the past decade, China has gradually gained full influence over Islamic Pakistan, even its ports. At the same time, the US strategy has gradually shifted towards India, which today, for the Americans and their allies in the Mediterranean and the Middle East, constitutes and is proclaimed as the “new China”. However, Beijing, reacting to the famous “Abraham Accords” of the first Trump period, has gradually managed to gain control over the absolutely ambitious but economically and fiscally unstable and problematic Turkey. At this stage, and while the new heated conflict between Pakistan and India has developed, the American intelligence services have felt strong discomfort over the fact that Turkey, discreetly, was supplying its close ally Pakistan with specific military equipment. The following period of time will make it more clearly understood that the traditional confrontation between Greece and Turkey over nautical miles and EEZs will acquire additional content. Also, the issue of the militarization of the Greek islands in the Aegean. The conflict of the China-Pakistan-Turkey axis with the IMEC countries from Greece to India will determine developments and will judge strategic alliances.

This reminds of when the big european nations were pointing fingers at Turkiye for doing business with russia, despite nations like the UK, France and Germany doing more business with Russia at the time.

Greece today is a closer ally to China then Turkiye is. When greeks were desperate for Chinese money it was all about "the gateway to europe", indeed Chinese own the largest greek naval port.

 

[Oublious]

Τι σηµαίνει ο άξονας Κίνα - Πακιστάν - Τουρκία

Μενέλαος Τασιόπουλος - Άρθρο γνώμης

www.parapolitika.gr

China's strategic, energy, trade and transit priorities from East to West pass through West Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean to Europe.
In the past decade, China has gradually gained full influence over Islamic Pakistan, even its ports. At the same time, the US strategy has gradually shifted towards India, which today, for the Americans and their allies in the Mediterranean and the Middle East, constitutes and is proclaimed as the “new China”. However, Beijing, reacting to the famous “Abraham Accords” of the first Trump period, has gradually managed to gain control over the absolutely ambitious but economically and fiscally unstable and problematic Turkey. At this stage, and while the new heated conflict between Pakistan and India has developed, the American intelligence services have felt strong discomfort over the fact that Turkey, discreetly, was supplying its close ally Pakistan with specific military equipment. The following period of time will make it more clearly understood that the traditional confrontation between Greece and Turkey over nautical miles and EEZs will acquire additional content. Also, the issue of the militarization of the Greek islands in the Aegean. The conflict of the China-Pakistan-Turkey axis with the IMEC countries from Greece to India will determine developments and will judge strategic alliances.

lol

What exactly does Greece and India have to call it strategic alliances? I mean we sell a lot off top off shelf equipments what you can say it is a strategic. You and India does have nothing but words , IMEC countries have good trade with Turkiye. Why would they stop trading with Turkiye because off Greece?

 

[GoatsMilk]

talking about "axis" EU does far more business with China then Turkiye.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1925970500884332600

The greek Newspaper Pentapostagma want India to built Bases in Greece.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Tayfun and CENK. Two hypersonic missiles that are amongst the most potent weapons of Turkish attack missile armoury.

To hope for anti ship capability seems to be wishful thinking at this stage. I was also hopeful that these missiles would at least have anti ship capable versions. That would make them real game changers. May be there is work being carried out that we are not aware of. There has been a lot of unofficial news about anti ship version of Bora and Tayfun. But nothing concrete has emerged so far.

However at least for Tayfun, Roketsan has shared the guidance system as GOLIS. That is Go Onto Location In Space, shortened.
It is a guidance system that specifically targets stationary positions and platforms. So moving ships in the sea will not be Tayfun’s target unless a new version is also being developed.
Cenk being the big brother of Tayfun and being developed as a follow on missile, it having anti ship capability will be too optimistic.

Kara Atmaca with its “guestimated” 450 to 500 km range is the current anti ship missile that will keep enemy ships away from our coasts. That is until a Ramjet version of Atmaca becomes a reality. Since ramjet engined Gökhan a2a missile’s natural and logical successor is bound to be an anti ship ramjet powered missile.

@Yasar_TR

Before we speak about ASBM it is first important to detect an enemy CSG, we have E-7T, MPA, several Drones, Göktürk I & II EO Satelittes and IMECE and will launch Göktürk III SAR Satelitte in the Space arround 2028 - 30. Space based SAR would help our armed Forces to detect and classifie an enemy CSG Day and Night and under all weather Conditions.

We have Drones that can be equipped with SAR Pods or Radars, but I doubt that the Range of current Systems like MILSAR will be sufficient to spot an enemy CSG from a safe Distance of several hundret Kilometers. We lack on high Altitude ISR UAV's like the Triton or the chinese CH-7 Drone.

OTH Radar can play also an important Role by detect and track an enemy CSG, I don't if turkish Navy have an land based OTH Radar ?

From my Point of View it will be only realistic in an forseeable Timeframe that Turkey could only employ ASBM with a Range up 600 km ! This is in the reach of current AEW&C and other ISR Capabillities.