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thats nothing actually. A very small fleet.
Not really! Please read the comment at the end! It will make the “FLEET” very special. The complete fleet is not just these ships. With these ships added, the fleet will be more complete and effective.
there are 12 more subs, 8 Gabya class, 4 Yavuz class, 6 Burak Class , 16 Tuzla class, 13 MRTP 33 boats Sancaktar, Bayraktar,Anadolu lhd etc etc.
they make the “FLEET”
 
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Not really! Please read the comment at the end! It will make the “FLEET” very special. The complete fleet is not just these ships. With these sips added, the fleet will be more complete and effective.
there are 12 more subs, Gabya class, Yavuz class, Burak Class , Tuzla class, MRTP boats Sancaktar, Anadolu etc etc.
they make the “FLEET”
Gabya class is old, Yavuz class is old, Tuzla -MRTPs are just patrol boats ,the rest is amphibious class which relies on earlier ships for protection (Bayraktar Class is slightly exception)
We need TF-100 class and we will have it, I class is going to replace Yavuz, TF2000 will fill the gap of Gabya and A2D gap. But i am sure we won't able to deploy TF2000 anywhere the way we do with gabya so we need a multi-role frigate class.
 

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Gabya class is old, Yavuz class is old, Tuzla -MRTPs are just patrol boats ,the rest is amphibious class which relies on earlier ships for protection (Bayraktar Class is slightly exception)
We need TF-100 class and we will have it, I class is going to replace Yavuz, TF2000 will fill the gap of Gabya and A2D gap. But i am sure we won't able to deploy TF2000 anywhere the way we do with gabya so we need a multi-role frigate class.
Exactly ! We will need newer ships to replace the older ships. But as it stands today this is the fleet we have.
Gabya class is old too. But we have to put up with them. Yavuz class is really old too. But until I class is fully operational they are there. Tuzla class as well as having patrol duties are special ASW ships too. So they are vital. They are now being envisaged for carrying attack missiles and short range air defence missiles. MRTP 33 boats have already been shown to foreign buyers with anti ship missiles at the back of them. So if push comes to shove they can be used. Burak class are very old too. But their open sea escort capability makes them important. They are being modernised too as well as possibly to be fitted with anti air and short range attack missiles.
But all these ships are part of the Turkish naval fleet. Including the logistic support ships and of course the mine sweepers and landing crafts too.
 

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New indigenization in submarine technologies

Turkey's first indigenous submarine technologies covered by water spectrum measurement device, Defense Technologies Engineering and Trade Inc. (STM) and Bahçeşehir University (BAU) was developed as a result of cooperation.

According to the information obtained by the AA reporter, a new product for submarine technologies has been localized in cooperation with the university-industry.

The first domestic production in the area "to analyze the Water Absorption A Train Under Water Analyzer", will strengthen Turkey's hand in submarine technology. STM and the UAE in cooperation with the disclosed device, BAI Innovation and Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey by the Consulting, Technology and Innovation Funding Programs Directorate has developed and produced within the scope of Project 1501.

It will provide support for the recently increased activity in Turkey's territorial waters developments, but also to the use of water in submarines and research vessels to reduce external dependency in making the six stages analysis.

The device, which will measure in the hydrographic area, will also be used instead of "CTD probes" (depth-based sound velocity calculations), which are integrated into research ships and submarine systems. The prominent features of the device are that it can make instant measurements at a depth of 1500 meters from existing products, it differs in terms of optical conductivity and can be used instead of imported CTD probes used in existing submarine platforms.

It will also contribute to scientific research

Underwater Optical Spectrum Device, next to its contribution to offer to the defense industry can perform scientific research in Turkey, oceanography and hydrography area offers a measurement system. The difference of the device from similar systems in the world is that it measures the optical conductivity of water in real time depending on the wavelength. In the measurements made with the Underwater Optical Spectrum Device, besides the optical conductivity of the water, salinity, temperature and pressure values at different depth levels can be obtained. These data allow the calculation of many hydrographic information such as hydrocarbon distribution, speed of sound in water and water quality.

The most common operational use of this device, known as the CTD probe, is in submarine ships. The device and the data it measures are of critical importance in the submarine's tactical and operational field applications.

The device was licensed to STM in order to provide the necessary engineering and field expertise to carry out sales and marketing activities after production, and for assembly and integration into after-sales submarine platforms.
 

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According to Ismail Bayar the TCG Anadolu is supposed to enter service late 2020, anyone knows what the status of this ship is? Is it still realistic or can we expect it in 2021?
 

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According to Ismail Bayar the TCG Anadolu is supposed to enter service late 2020, anyone knows what the status of this ship is? Is it still realistic or can we expect it in 2021?
2022 - 2023 i would say. We are in end of 2020 and many of the trials (Factory acceptance and sail experiences) has remained, apart from trials and acceptance the integration and fitting of equipments hasn't been completed still.
 

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2022 - 2023 i would say. We are in end of 2020 and many of the trials (Factory acceptance and sail experiences) has remained, apart from trials and acceptance the integration and fitting of equipments hasn't been completed still.
TCG Anadolu, needs navalised helicopters on it’s deck. Also the crafts it is going to carry are not all ready yet.
I know that the Super-Cobra’s we have are navalised and would be suitable. But we still do need Sea hawks and Navalised Chinooks and/or Atak helicopters.
 

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TCG Anadolu, needs navalised helicopters on it’s deck. Also the crafts it is going to carry are not all ready yet.
I know that the Super-Cobra’s we have are navalised and would be suitable. But we still do need Sea hawks and Navalised Chinooks and/or Atak helicopters.

T-129 would be perfect since it occupies so little space compared to it's equivalents. Definitely would like to see a Navalised T-129.
 

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T-129 would be perfect since it occupies so little space compared to it's equivalents. Definitely would like to see a Navalised T-129.
I think we will see a t-629 being navalised rather than a t-129. It may take as long as 2023 before it becomes a reality.
As no new t-129 helicopters are being delivered, one can’t help but think that the t-129 production has either stopped to make way fort-629 or there is some engine embargo on it.
 

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TCG Anadolu, needs navalised helicopters on it’s deck. Also the crafts it is going to carry are not all ready yet.
I know that the Super-Cobra’s we have are navalised and would be suitable. But we still do need Sea hawks and Navalised Chinooks and/or Atak helicopters.
Both Atak-II and 10t utility helicopter will be available in 2025+ (unsure when, for both)
We will need something on it, Seahawk is morelikely, maybe Chinook.
I think we will see a t-629 being navalised rather than a t-129. It may take as long as 2023 before it becomes a reality.
As no new t-129 helicopters are being delivered, one can’t help but think that the t-129 production has either stopped to make way fort-629 or there is some engine embargo on it.
Atak-II will be navalized, unsure about T-629.
 

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With ADVENT (possibly with GENESIS too) TN already has, or soon is going to have access to drones (like ATAK -Drone integration) another step towards network centric war. In vice-versa drone's may have aerial surveillance data from ships (from 3D radar or fusion of several ship's sensors) and this will be accomplished with ADVENT fully utilized.
This won't matter much for large vessels (may still supply surveillance needs), but FAC, PBs, OPV and SAT/SOF possibly CG will have best of the use.
 
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Roketsan and IDAS consortium signed agreement back in 2013

It is said to be ready by 2022-2024

I wonder what happened to IDAS missile for Turkey
 

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IDAS was started in 2006 By the Germans. Roketsan and Norway’s Nammo were involved in the development stage after 2012. After the first stages of development, in 2016 the consortium’s missile was successfully tried.
The project is supposed to be finished by 2022 As explained below.
As it is a missile that can target submarine hunter helicopters or low flying air platforms it is a defensive missile of a submarine. But it can also be used to attack surface ships and land targets. Since 4 of these missiles can fit in to a 533mm torpedo tube it is quite a versatile missile with a range of ~40 km.
 
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