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because the Christians are the ones who control the world order rn

Please don’t say Christians are against Muslims or they have some agenda, this is simply not true. Christians are also the victims of the states. Here in France they are closing some churches and turn them into night clubs. True Christians are extremely generous people and will be the first to help those in need. Nothing to do with those greedy politicians who wants to destabilize Africa and the M-E.
 

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Please don’t say Christians are against Muslims or they have some agenda, this is simply not true. Christians are also the victims of the states. Here in France they are closing some churches and turn them into night clubs. True Christians are extremely generous people and will be the first to help those in need. Nothing to do with those greedy politicians who wants to destabilize Africa and the M-E.
I never said that Christians are against muslims per say. Its not like every Christian out there wants blood or something but...

I just said that the Christians are the ones who rule the current world order and this is an undeniable fact
 

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CHP ve HDP Libya tezkeresine "Hayır" oyun kullandı

Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri unsurlarının Libya’da bulunmasına ilişkin Tezkere TBMM’de kabul edildi. Tezkereye AK Parti, MHP ve İYİ Parti "Evet", CHP ve HDP ise "Hayır" dedi.


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If we become non aligned thats good for us really.
Turkey's already trying to be non-aligned and it's not really working too well. You either pick a side or you make a side.

As the joke goes "the problem with playing the middle-man is that you get it from both sides".
No wonder the Greeks like them
While the CHP is ranting about shitty peace, Greek media and govt are already preparing for war. In fact, during the previous week, some prominent greek channels stated that the only way out of this deadlock is through a war in which the victor gets all

They are building anti-tank trenches throughout the Turkish-Greek border, supporting PKK, and forcing the US to build bases on the contested islands

The moment they succeed in doing so, the moment they will declare full control and monopolisation over the EEZ whether the Turks like it or not
Greeks are a distraction who are in even deeper shit economically than Turkey despite pretensions to otherwise. Mitsotakis is cashing in checks that he and Greece absolutely cannot afford especially with the upcoming global economic crisis.
 

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what's the point in putting military bases within the turkish artillery range ?
Provocation, a pill that many seem to willing to swallow if you ask me.
Its not important who is stronger, its important who is getting the support from west in case of a conflict.
Guesses anyone?

Now you know why Greece is pushing for it, its not like a Flag painted on some rocks will prevent anything, no, the oposite is the goal here.
But, no CHP bad for trying to avoid conflict, as if AKP has done anything about the issue themselves...
 

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We can pursue our own interests while not being in any camp. Not to mention we can have relations with the west, russia and china while not being on their side.
Sure,if we were a country without enemies just waiting to make a move at the first sign of weakness from our side.
What can we do against Greece in such a case(NATO article 5)?
And if Russia makes a move,who is coming to help?
Is our country totally independent on weapons(engines etc)?
What if they refuse to supply what we need(already weapon embargos from allies)?
Still want to be non aligned?
 

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Turkey's already trying to be non-aligned and it's not really working too well. You either pick a side or you make a side.

As the joke goes "the problem with playing the middle-man is that you get it from both sides".

Greeks are a distraction who are in even deeper shit economically than Turkey despite pretensions to otherwise. Mitsotakis is cashing in checks that he and Greece absolutely cannot afford especially with the upcoming global economic crisis.
They are making the same mistakes they did after 1996. Back then the tensions were also very high and they went on a shopping tour bought equipment left and right and few years later got bankrupt very hard. They thought EU means free cash without any responsibility. Olympic games here, little bit corruption there, no investment in Infrastructure, Industry...
 

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Sure,if we were a country without enemies just waiting to make a move at the first sign of weakness from our side.
What can we do against Greece in such a case(NATO article 5)?
And if Russia makes a move,who is coming to help?
Is our country totally independent on weapons(engines etc)?
What if they refuse to supply what we need(already weapon embargos from allies)?
Still want to be non aligned?

Even in Nato they are still embargoing us while taking our F35s away.

Greece can only fight a defensive war
 

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We can pursue our own interests while not being in any camp. Not to mention we can have relations with the west, russia and china while not being on their side.

The only way you can be non-aligned sustainably (while being a fairly large nation) is to have credible arsenal of nuclear weapons and delivery options.

Otherwise nothing significant enough backs up the non-alignment to the final tier needed.

Without this assured capability.....whatever you say/do geopolitically means only so much....as you are either are in a camp (officially or non-officially)....and without much choice in the end given what (WMD in others hands) means.

....or you fly under the radar by being small/quiet enough....which is bulk of countries in the world below certain population and GDP etc.

I sense 🇹🇷 (being above this significance threshold by some distance and in the region/geography it has)....approaches fork in road of major decisions to be made this decade....as old collective security promise wears out and true strategic autonomy seems more reliable. It must pick direction choices well.
 

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The last part is pretty interesting. "Cözüm sürecini elestirmemizin nedeni de yöntemiydi".

Stupidity at its max tbh
They are just trying to act good with the kurds while trying to gef the votes of the turkish hardliners. This is a tactic the CHP has been employing in recent days to gobble up the votes!
I would like to know what sort of "process" was wrong? Hell, it was even rumored that the AKP even planned to pardon all PKK members of their previous crimes! They reached to a point that when the peace process was going on, they used to carry terrorist activities within Istanbul and near the border to put pressure on the govt at the time

There is nothing called "wrong" process when negotiating with terrorists since the result will always be the same no matter which "process" they use.

Shame on the CHP to even say such things!
 

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Stupidity at its max tbh
They are just trying to act good with the kurds while trying to gef the votes of the turkish hardliners. This is a tactic the CHP has been employing in recent days to gobble up the votes!
I would like to know what sort of "process" was wrong? Hell, it was even rumored that the AKP even planned to pardon all PKK members of their previous crimes! They reached to a point that when the peace process was going on, they used to carry terrorist activities within Istanbul and near the border to put pressure on the govt at the time

There is nothing called "wrong" process when negotiating with terrorists since the result will always be the same no matter which "process" they use.

Shame on the CHP to even say such things!

I dont support military coups but seriously akp and chp and other piece of trash parties now starting to make me support a military coup even more.

Its hard to even keep a positive face really. Democracy sure does make a lot of politicians become wh**** for votes while betraying their own voter bases. Seriously when does say that democracy allows you to committ treason?
 
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