TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[guest12]

UK joined killswitch bandwagon too , they reallly pissed about Trump's Pro-Putin decisions.

F-35 ‘kill switch’ could allow Trump to disable European air force

Germany fears US president could u-turn on multi-billion-dollar arms deal after decisions on Ukraine

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Huelague]

If everyone is afraid about an F35 kill switch than it is something more than speculation.

As I wrote before, if US can cut of a targeting system on a missile. What do you think, which capabilities they have on a strategic weapon like a F-35.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Well, as a person in the community that I respect once said "The world is becoming a one big Turkiye"

We are witnessing the subjects from 4-5 years ago brought up in European countries regarding F-35, and this honestly makes me think silently at this point.

and oh, India's S-400 is the cherry on the cake I guess, some tried to lynch me when I said that S-400 is not the real reason back in the day

Europe wants to act more independently from the US and is taking its steps and now trust issues have flared up, ring any bells?

If you ask me, I don't support being a part of the EU military but I view this situation as a chance to form a solidarity in military industry which will be beneficial for everyone. They have been asleep despite their vast resources while we have been scraping around with significantly less. Our will and their resources, it could be something to shoo the US influence. This is what Spain and Italy see and why they are eager for cooperation. Let's see who else boards the train.

 

[Yasar_TR]

UK joined killswitch bandwagon too , they reallly pissed about Trump's Pro-Putin decisions.

F-35 ‘kill switch’ could allow Trump to disable European air force

Germany fears US president could u-turn on multi-billion-dollar arms deal after decisions on Ukraine

www.telegraph.co.uk

Where is the bit about UK?
Telegraph wants you to register etc in order to read the rest of the article. Can you share the bit about UK please?
The bit we can read suggests only Germany has the heebie-jeebies.

Israel is most definitely going to diversify and has been working steadily towards fostering relations with countries that has production power and can supply Israel in case the US gives it the cold shoulder.

When there are nearly 7-8 million Jews in the US and are actively supporting Israel via their control over US politics, US media and US economy, there is no chance of any US administration to give them the cold shoulder and still stay in power.
Israel means US. US administrations rather lose their grip over critical US Defence issues than lose the support from Jewish lobbies.

 

[hugh]

The idea of a software defined kill-switch has always seemed dumb to me. If you "put" that on the jets, no amount of security will be able to protect you 100% from your adversaries' cyber-attacks. They would pluck your jets out of the sky at the click of a few buttons. Why would you take such risks when you could ground the aircrafts just by not supplying certain parts? I don't understand why people keep fixating on a supposed kill switch but not on safety of the supply-chain, which is certain and would ground your fleet in a few months at most.

And who would buy any American weapon once they pushed that "kill-switch"? It would literally be pushing the kill-switch of their defence export.

 

[TR_123456]

When there are nearly 7-8 million Jews in the US and are actively supporting Israel via their control over US politics, US media and US economy, there is no chance of any US administration to give them the cold shoulder and still stay in power.
Israel means US. US administrations rather lose their grip over critical US Defence issues than lose the support from Jewish lobbies.

You might be surprised in the near future.
Most of the Republican constituency hates Jews and there are some real powerful ones.

 

[Huelague]

Why would you take such risks when you could ground the aircrafts just by not supplying certain parts?

The answer is very easy. It’s all about timing. You can wait until the jets need spare parts, which could take times (weeks, months or years). Or you can do it immediately by the „backdoor“. Where only you have the access.

 

[Huelague]

You might be surprised in the near future.
Most of the Republican constituency hates Jews and there are some real powerful ones.

We can see a rising of Christian power in the USA. They are anything else than Jew friendly.

 

[Yasar_TR]

You might be surprised in the near future.
Most of the Republican constituency hate Jews and there are some real powerful ones.

I would love to be surprised. But there is also the reality.
Irrespective of how much republican constituents hate the Jews, elected presidents and their colleagues in position of power have debts to pay back to the Jewish lobbies and/or have strong signs that their strings are pulled by them.

When you control the media channels and newspapers that matter; When you control politicians and also have the control of the economy that is relevant; When you have the best law firms of the country with strong judicial backing in your back pocket, you wouldn‘t care if any constituents are haters of Jews. Because it doesn’t matter if it is a Republican government or a Democrat government in power. They are all put there by the Jewish lobby. All US presidents have to go to Israel and get approval before they are elected, be it Republican or Democrat.

So, even though I would love to be wrong and “surprised”, I am afraid realities of US administrative set up is suggesting differently.

 

[No Name]

You are all wrong. The 7 million Jews are not the reason why the US is so pro-Israel; the reason the US is so pro-Israel is because the US is full of Christian extremists.

Zionism as an ideology was created by Christian sects then it was spread to the Jewish community 100 years later. The reason why these crazy Christian groups love Zionism even if they hate Jews is because of their crazy grand plan to genocide humanity.

These Christian extremists believe that by creating and expanding Israel, they can trigger some bullshit prophecy that will bring start the apocalypse, thus causing Jesus to come to earth and god to kill everyone that isn't a pro-Israel Christan, including the Jewish people, both in the US and in Israeli.

To make this stupid prophecy happen, local American Christian religious leaders work with AIPAC to control the US foreign policy in the Middle East. The only way to end the zionist foreign policy in the United States is for the influence of Christianity to diminish, which, luckily, is slowly happening as the younger generation is far less religious and thus more indifferent/negative towards Israel.

 

[Turkic]

You are all wrong. The 7 million Jews are not the reason why the US is so pro-Israel; the reason the US is so pro-Israel is because the US is full of Christian extremists.

Zionism as an ideology was created by Christian sects then it was spread to the Jewish community 100 years later. The reason why these crazy Christian groups love Zionism even if they hate Jews is because of their crazy grand plan to genocide humanity.

I'd like you to watch this video it's good summary (I hope you know Turkish there's only auto-translate option in subts if you don't.):

4.30-5.05 espacially important

Also this video for a wider sum:

This one also shows the reasons why Hitler used to hate them. Their influence in trades was one of the biggest reasons too.