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[what]

And u will also be the first one to defend them when the bear will make their moves on them- better not, sell eq to poland, I think they will be capable of defending their nation but the baltics are a no-no.

Couldn't understand what you're saying.

 

[Stuka]

Baykar Defence CEO Selcuk Bayraktar:

"At the end of this month (August)
we are planning to hold both the graduation ceremony of our trainee security forces and the (AKINCI) delivery ceremony."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429367070655979527

 

[TheInsider]

You like contradicting everybody. You need to work on that. Also please read a bit carefully the fine nuances in the lines, before blurting out!
Turkish F16 project, “when started“, was an “assembly-line” project. The whole F16 plane was US designed, built, used and sold to many countries.
JF17 is not used by China. It was designed together with Pakistani engineers to suit their needs and Pakistan has the rights over this plane.
It has more similarities with our T-129 project “when it first started” than with our F-16 experience.

T-129 project when it first started has the full Aselsan avionic suite, Aselsan mission computer, Aselsan Aselflir-300T, Aselsan radios, Aselsan ew suit, and roketsan weapons. "Complete body" production was also done at TAI. Now tell me does Pakistan produce the complete body, avionic suite, ew systems, and weapons even today. The answer is no. So JF-17 project looks like a Turkish F-16 project rather than T-129.

 

[Yasar_TR]

T-129 project when it first started has the full Aselsan avionic suite, Aselsan mission computer, Aselsan Aselflir-300T, Aselsan radios, Aselsan ew suit, and roketsan weapons. "Complete body" production was also done at TAI. Now tell me does Pakistan produce the complete body, avionic suite, ew systems, and weapons even today. The answer is no. So JF-17 project looks like a Turkish F-16 project rather than T-129.

We can argue here about similarities forever. To you it is similar to f16 project. To me it is more akin to our t129 project. So let us agree to disagree.

 

[LegioXLupus]

We should not underestimate level of technology of Pakistan. They are manufacturing JF-17 Supersonic fighter Block I-II-III even with the help of China.
They will begin to use Aesa radar before us with Block III.
No need to say experience about nuclear technology and balistic missiles.
Sometimes exchanging critical know-how is valuable than money.
And also Pakistan is another special country for us. Endless ally...

What technology could Pakistan offer Turkey? Realistically.

Turkey is far ahead of Pakistan in avionics and naval technology, in about all fields. Ballistic missiles is about the only area Pakistan is ahead of Turkey, with some R&D Turkey wont be far behind. Even that know one knows Turkeys real arsenal here, i wouldn't be surprised with anything it is the most secretive and rumoured of all projects.

JF17 is Chinese avionics with a made in Pakistan frame, literally an assembly line. Turkey has already been down that route with F16s. Were talking about a jump to 4.5 / 5th gen, if the same arrangement had been made between Turkey and China or the US we would be here bashing the government that the engine and avionics is not yerli ve milli.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Ukranian Bayraktar TB2 being paraded in Kiev streets during Independence Day celebrations.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Russia Says Its Orion Drones Can Outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 UAVs In Three Key Parameters​

By Sputnik

August 20, 2021
The Russian-made Inokhodets unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), an Orion drone variant designed for the Russian Army, can outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar combat drone in three key parameters, the developer of the device, Kronshtadt Group, told Sputnik.

“If we compare Inokhodets with Bayraktar, I can definitely say that our system has greater potential and capabilities. In particular, Inokhodets is much more technologically advanced in production, definitely better in terms of aerodynamics and elements of artificial intelligence,” Kronshtadt Group CEO Sergei Bogatikov said ahead of the Army 2021 forum.
Bayraktar, according to the official, does not meet many Russian military requirements.
The Orion combat drone is a medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle with a maximum take-off weight of 1,150 kilograms (2,535 pounds). The UAV’s cruising speed is 200 kilometers per hour (124 miles per hour), and its maximum flight altitude is 7 kilometers.
The Russian military actively used Inokhodets drones for reconnaissance and airstrikes against terrorists in Syria as part of UAV flight tests.

Bayraktar TB2 – Wikipedia

The Army defense industry forum will be held from August 22-28 at the Patriot Congress and Exposition Center near Moscow, as well as at the Kubinka airfield and the Alabino training ground.
Meanwhile, Kronshtadt Group CEO Sergei Bogatikov said that the Orion will be equipped with a satellite communication system and will fly for the first time in the coming winter.
“It is planned to operate the UAV equipped with a satellite communication system this winter. This work will significantly increase the range of the Orion-type unmanned system, limited by the range of the radio link,” Bogatikov said ahead of the Army 2021 forum.

The Orion combat drone is capable of carrying up to 200 kilograms (441 pounds) of load. The Russian military actively used such UAVs for reconnaissance and airstrikes against terrorists in Syria as part of flight tests of the unmanned complex.
In early July, Kronshtadt Group announced it was preparing to launch mass production of Orion UAVs for exports at a one-of-a-kind plant in the Russian town of Dubna in 2022.
The Army defense industry forum will be held from August 22-28 at the Patriot Congress and Exposition Center near Moscow, as well as at the Kubinka airfield and the Alabino training ground.

More @ EurAsian Times​

Russia Says Its Orion Drones Can Outperform Turkey's Bayraktar TB2 UAVs In Three Key Parameters

The Russian-made Inokhodets unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), an Orion drone variant designed for the Russian Army, can outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar combat drone in three key parameters, the developer of the device, Kronshtadt Group, told Sputnik. J-20, Rafale Or Su-35: Which Fighter Jets Can...

eurasiantimes.com

 

[Fuzuli NL]

In Russia, the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 was called an easy target​

General Designer of Almaz-Antey believes that the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 is an easy target


https://lenta.ru/auth/
Photo: Yulii Zozulia / Ukrinform / globallookpress.com
Turkish strike-reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) Bayraktar TB2 is an easy target for Russian anti-aircraft missile systems, said RIA Novosti General Designer, Deputy General Director of the concern "Almaz-Antey". Pavel Sozinov .
"Bayraktar, generally speaking, is a typical target for an anti-aircraft missile system. This is a big goal, in fact, a plane weighing 650 kilograms, " the expert said.
Sozinov called the Turkish UAV "very vulnerable, as it flies quite slowly." According to him, there is no problem to "see" and hit Bayraktar TB2 in a timely manner.
In July, Defense Express reported that the Bayraktar TB2 of the Ukrainian Navy, which was purchased from Turkey to contain the "Russian threat" in the Black and Azov Seas, turned out to be "advanced".
In the same month, the Ukrainian agency reported that Bayraktar TB2 is planned to be used for monitoring the surface situation and targeting missiles of the Neptune LCD-360MC coastal complex, as well as "for hitting small and medium-sized ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet."

В России турецкий Bayraktar TB2 назвали легкой целью

Турецкий ударно-разведывательный беспилотный летательный аппарат (БПЛА) Bayraktar TB2 является легкой целью для российских зенитных ракетных комплексов, заявил РИА Новости генеральный конструктор, заместитель генерального директора концерна «Алмаз-Антей» Павел Созинов. Он назвал турецкий БПЛА...

lenta.ru

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Were there any more Pantsirs hunted by TB2 lately?
It seems our Russian friends can't forget the Pantsir genocide!

 

[Nutuk]

It is possible what the Russian say, let's not forget that the TB2 is a product of 2015 design. 6 years is not so long but for technology it means a generation. Take Akinci for instance, there is a huge difference in technology in regard to TB2

 

[Huelague]

It is possible what the Russian say, let's not forget that the TB2 is a product of 2015 design. 6 years is not so long but for technology it means a generation. Take Akinci for instance, there is a huge difference in technology in regard to TB2

How old are Russian design?

 

[Nutuk]

How old are Russian design?

That I don't know, that why I say it is possible.

Todays technology goes so fast that a few years make already huge difference. Take us, 10 - 15 years back we did not build radars, now we build AESA

 

[Zafer]

TB2 will have to drop bombs from further away at worst.

 

[Anastasius]

I do think TB2's are kind of overhyped (the real secret weapon is Turkish EW) but RIA Novosti is just...LMAO.

They are still probably assmad about having Russian fighters get completely humiliated by Rafales in test-runs conducted in Egypt.

 

[Combat-Master]

Russia Says Its Orion Drones Can Outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 UAVs In Three Key Parameters​

By Sputnik

August 20, 2021
The Russian-made Inokhodets unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), an Orion drone variant designed for the Russian Army, can outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar combat drone in three key parameters, the developer of the device, Kronshtadt Group, told Sputnik.

“If we compare Inokhodets with Bayraktar, I can definitely say that our system has greater potential and capabilities. In particular, Inokhodets is much more technologically advanced in production, definitely better in terms of aerodynamics and elements of artificial intelligence,” Kronshtadt Group CEO Sergei Bogatikov said ahead of the Army 2021 forum.
Bayraktar, according to the official, does not meet many Russian military requirements.
The Orion combat drone is a medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle with a maximum take-off weight of 1,150 kilograms (2,535 pounds). The UAV’s cruising speed is 200 kilometers per hour (124 miles per hour), and its maximum flight altitude is 7 kilometers.
The Russian military actively used Inokhodets drones for reconnaissance and airstrikes against terrorists in Syria as part of UAV flight tests.

Bayraktar TB2 – Wikipedia

The Army defense industry forum will be held from August 22-28 at the Patriot Congress and Exposition Center near Moscow, as well as at the Kubinka airfield and the Alabino training ground.
Meanwhile, Kronshtadt Group CEO Sergei Bogatikov said that the Orion will be equipped with a satellite communication system and will fly for the first time in the coming winter.
“It is planned to operate the UAV equipped with a satellite communication system this winter. This work will significantly increase the range of the Orion-type unmanned system, limited by the range of the radio link,” Bogatikov said ahead of the Army 2021 forum.

The Orion combat drone is capable of carrying up to 200 kilograms (441 pounds) of load. The Russian military actively used such UAVs for reconnaissance and airstrikes against terrorists in Syria as part of flight tests of the unmanned complex.
In early July, Kronshtadt Group announced it was preparing to launch mass production of Orion UAVs for exports at a one-of-a-kind plant in the Russian town of Dubna in 2022.
The Army defense industry forum will be held from August 22-28 at the Patriot Congress and Exposition Center near Moscow, as well as at the Kubinka airfield and the Alabino training ground.

More @ EurAsian Times​

Russia Says Its Orion Drones Can Outperform Turkey's Bayraktar TB2 UAVs In Three Key Parameters

The Russian-made Inokhodets unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), an Orion drone variant designed for the Russian Army, can outperform Turkey’s Bayraktar combat drone in three key parameters, the developer of the device, Kronshtadt Group, told Sputnik. J-20, Rafale Or Su-35: Which Fighter Jets Can...

eurasiantimes.com

Let's compare specs on paper;

	ORION-E ​	TB2​
Wingspan	16.3m	12m
Height	3.2m	2.2m
Length	8m	6.5m
Maximum takeoff	1000kg	700kg
Cruising	65 - 107 knots	70 - 120 knots
Maximum flight duration	24 hours	27 hours
Maximum flight altitude	7,500 m	8,200 m
Range (Communication)	300km (LOS Only) (BLOS variant in development)	300km (LOS) or +1000km (BLOS)
SOURCE	kronshtadt	baykardefence

 

[Pantelis]

What turkey is planning via this drone carrier?

 

[Manowar]

What turkey is planning via this drone carrier?

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It is intended to transfer forces to distant places where Turkey have interests. Simply, force projection.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

What turkey is planning via this drone carrier?

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Maritime and Land Drone strike operations with precision guided long range munitions such as Kuzgun and MAT-T. Instead of entering the Aegean with warships, the drones will do this missions

 

[Pantelis]

It is intended to transfer forces to distant places where Turkey have interests. Simply, force projection.

Without air superiority? Not an easy target for the scalps?

 

[Anastasius]

Without air superiority? Not an easy target for the scalps?

Carriers don't usually travel alone into danger zones.