TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Afif]

In my opinion, this is Very unlikely that, KE will have the same RCS value of an f35.
it got canards, even if they are made of composite. it got various visible antennas on the top, and actuators on the vertical stabilizer.
behind the canard, wings merging lines with fuselage is not very stealthy.

and when it comes to RAM, USA has 40 years experience in that domain and poured huge resources in RD for five different stealth platforms.

 

[Zafer]

It is announced that KE production will begin at the end of 2023 considering it will make its first flight at the end of 2022 it will be a whole year's time to mature the physical aspects of KE. Software aspects can be matured over a longer time without getting in the way of early deployment as early as possibly mid 2024.

 

[TsumugiShirogane]

I guarantee you some "western experts" are going to criticize the drone's stealth because of muh canards.

Well they do increase the RCS profile, but the real hurt comes from the C2 RF emissions when it comes to drones AFAIK. It could be resolved through making it fully autonomous which I believe Skunkworks already it has up its sleeve waiting to try it out on the nearing Pacific theatre.

 

[blackjack]

In my opinion, this is Very unlikely that, KE will have the same RCS value of an f35.
it got canards, even if they are made of composite. it got various visible antennas on the top, and actuators on the vertical stabilizer.
behind the canard, wings merging lines with fuselage is not very stealthy.

and when it comes to RAM, USA has 40 years experience in that domain and poured huge resources in RD for five different stealth platforms.

OK, let me get this straight the frontal value was the only thing that was measured for the F-22 giving a value of .0001m2 the F-35 was given a .001m2, then some air force general said the F-35 is stealthier than the F-22 so there are a lot of contradictions on claims. The Kizelelma is smaller and has less surface area than the F-35 so that is something that cant be overlooked and hence more stealth by default. I wouldnt even give a shit if the U.S. had 40 years of experience in RAM since they spent more money on drones and had more years of experience on that field yet for some reason they have Turks and Russians already beating them with the ambitious projects they are pursuing. There are still reported crashes of the F-35s which i guess makes sense why they wouldn't want to go pursue any big drone project. These drones will also have better radars and modules and there are no reports yet of the F-35 getting newer radar modules.

 

[Boykaz]

What I find baffling is the speed of the drone project where Erdogan says production 2023, has there been any Turkish projects that has been delayed before?(knock on wood it won't happen to this project). not as negative criticism but the timeframe is just insanely fast and I cannot be the only one here that thinks that.

We had the Euros fly the Bae Taranis and neuron and they have never fired weapons or dropped a bomb and still to this day have not set production dates same with the X-47B that got cancelled. The Okhotnik-b had a test fight in august 2019 and a series of more flights and set production for 2023. Now this drone looked like it was to use Ukrainian engines according to Wikipedia but a user told me the TF-6000 engines will be used in which it will have flight before the end of 2022 but a set production for 2023. Does anyone have atleast a little concern with that fast timeframe? If not, Turkey will set a lot of world records on this project. Just want to share this opinion if it has not been brought up before.

Selcuk Bayraktar said in a television program (KE) that it includes the systems found in Akıncı, so we can actually say that (KE) Akıncı is a jet engine model.

 

[AWP]

Göksungur !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597263939855085568

 

[Khagan1923]

Göksungur !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597263939855085568

No

 

[zio]

Ram paint effect on stealth is 15 percent.F 16 ram paint is called have glass.We have some F16s with have glass,see attach photo.Ram paints are evolving,latest version of not shiny one but matt one,its more durable and more effective.Radar dome can not painted,it interfece with,however it is fiber and already stealth.On this photo of Turkish AF F16 have RAM paint extented on the middle of cockpit,not more,to avoid interferences.Golden tint cockpit glass is also help to reduce.I saw some photos Turkish AF F16 have golden tint cockpit glass.

 

[Rodeo]

Göksungur !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597263939855085568

The vehicle is called Ravn X. A drone that launches satellites to LEO?

It's not from TAI.

Ravn X Autonomous Launch Vehicle (AuLV), USA

Ravn X is a next-generation autonomous launch vehicle (AuLV) being developed by Aevum to deliver autonomous launch services for both government and commercial customers.

www.aerospace-technology.com

 

[Pilatino]

No

Whats this

 

[Fuzuli NL]

No

I was gonna write just that

 

[Tsenal]

Whats this

Satellite launching drone from an American company

 

[Lool]

Göksungur !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597263939855085568

Isnt this the Boeing loyal wingman?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597650164851671040

 

[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597650164851671040

To be fair, that UAV is already a modified Cri-Cri manned which is the smallest twin-engined manned aircraft in the world. Made in France.
So what the Greek did was plagiarising an already plagiarised product.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597650164851671040

I really have my doubts that greece have potential to build own UAV.

It is more like stealing and rebranding as it is developed by greece

 

[Ripley]

So what the Greek did was plagiarising an already plagiarised product.

Never! A Proud plagiarist always rips off the original directly

 

[Anmdt]

Selcuk Bayraktar said in a television program (KE) that it includes the systems found in Akıncı, so we can actually say that (KE) Akıncı is a jet engine model.

The prototype will literally run on Akıncı avionics and actuators, but if their plan has not changed the ultimate KE that will go through serial production will have its own actuators and avionics. I once hear they plan to introduce an actuator similar to the ones on fighter planes but this is not my field so i went "whatever".

I really have my doubts that greece have potential to build own UAV.

It is more like stealing and rebranding as it is developed by greece

They have people who can do that, but definitely not the ones who made TALOS.

 

[Heartbang]

This "..... Vatan" thing got out off control..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597970690719633408

nah thats exactly how its supposed to be...

 

[Stimpy75]

3 terror militants killed bu kargu kamikaze drone

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1597906252906246144