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Chinese had the same confidence too, now they're smuggling CPU's in fake pregnant bellies.

Luckily they don't make Jetson TX1's anymore. Perhaps a change in components has arranged.
 

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Removing the logo is not going to work. Like pulling a Mercedes logo from a Mercedes, but anyone who knows the car models will instantly understand it is Mercedes. Apart from that, this part is something that you can buy from Amazon.
You can never be too safe with COTS components. Every detail in the following report was gathered from wreckages of MAMs used in Syria and with OSINT, a group of civilians were able to complicate supplies of COTS components for our projects in the past. Imagine how many millions of dollars had to be spent to circumvent all this?

 

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why doesn't Turkey manufacture those parts indigenously?
 
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why doesn't Turkey manufacture those parts indigenously?
Buying commercial off the shelf(COTS) parts is almost always cheaper when you have the option to do so and those parts require intensive ecosystems a buyer might not have. They are cheap because they are produced for the civilian market on bulk. Cost of the system you want to make balloons up when you have to use parts you need to make yourself and produce in small numbers rather than from the civilian maker that builds 100x more than you need for your own military needs.

I believe these parts were later localized, but at what cost, i dunno.
 
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Using commercial parts is very common, you'll even see in American weapons.

Reasons are simple, these are subsystems of the whole design. Why would one spent long time on designing a graphic card when they are available in abundance at very good quality. We are talking here about a kamikaze drone, the base idea is quick production at the lowest price. Use COTS subsystems in your design.


But as we experienced often some groups use these "foreign subsystem" trying to get you embargoed. I don't say do not use these COTS, just make them unrecognizable (that's easier than many think)
 

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Using commercial parts is very common, you'll even see in American weapons.

Reasons are simple, these are subsystems of the whole design. Why would one spent long time on designing a graphic card when they are available in abundance at very good quality. We are talking here about a kamikaze drone, the base idea is quick production at the lowest price. Use COTS subsystems in your design.


But as we experienced often some groups use these "foreign subsystem" trying to get you embargoed. I don't say do not use these COTS, just make them unrecognizable (that's easier than many think)

Wouldn't those part by the type of dual-use technology that gets its money back for all the research by being sold in the civilian market? let's face it selling military technology can only do so much for a nation's economy it is better to develop and manufacture stuff that is useful for civilians, not just the military.
 

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TB2 is a headed to Japan for Trial this year.

This could be the first exploratory step in a very long and powerful partnership that could continue with TB-3 and KE.

I think the UK will follow Japan. Maybe not for Tb-2, but they definitely pay close attention to ongoing projects. They will be followed by Italy. The fact that these countries are also the developer countries of the GCAP program may have some political and military bureaucratic implications.
 

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84th Anka!

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With all the knowledge Türkiye gathered over the years in drone technology, do you guys think that we will see a turkish Global Hawk one day?
 

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According to the news, this testing and evaluation process will be carried out by the land army.

I know, but TB3 with more or even current engine would increase Japanese armed forces .
 

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