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A first for Bayraktar TB3: Landing gear closed

- The Bayraktar TB3 UCAV developed by BAYKAR closed its landing gear for the first time during its 5th flight test. During the test, Bayraktar TB3 remained in the air for 6 hours.

- Bayraktar TB3 UCAV flew with its landing gear closed for the first time during the performance test at medium altitude as part of its 5th test flight. As a result of the successful 6-hour flight test, the National UCAV has crossed another important threshold.

- The Bayraktar TB3 UCAV, which flies with the PD-170 engine, flew for 5 hours in its 3rd flight test, despite the challenging weather conditions caused by the strong lodos storm that hit the Marmara region on November 4, 2023 and reached a speed of 130 km/h.
 

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When i see drones like this, how many Korkut SPAAG do we have? Can the main radar of Korkut find this small drones? Ther will be drone wars in the battlefield :p,Skynet is awakening....

 

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those fpv drones in ukraine says the otherwise
We have 100 companies making drones not 1 has eyes and brains apparently. Copy what works. Mass produce cheap FPV drones carrying antitank grenades or RPGs like Russians and Ukrainians. They can be as effective as top attack ATGMs costing 100.000 USD but for 200 USD.
 

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Honestly, not very impressive or useful. Too short duration with 10min and that warhead feels like fireworks.
Point of the video was clearly to show the proximity fuze, not warhead.


We have 100 companies making drones not 1 has eyes and brains apparently. Copy what works. Mass produce cheap FPV drones carrying antitank grenades or RPGs like Russians and Ukrainians. They can be as effective as top attack ATGMs costing 100.000 USD but for 200 USD.
Issue with this is that they are pure war systems. They are nothing special, you just put an RPG round on a drone and call it a day. That’s no way to run a business and make a profit if there is no war around.
 

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Point of the video was clearly to show the proximity fuze, not warhead.



Issue with this is that they are pure war systems. They are nothing special, you just put an RPG round on a drone and call it a day. That’s no way to run a business and make a profit if there is no war around.
There is always some form of war around
 

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Point of the video was clearly to show the proximity fuze, not warhead.



Issue with this is that they are pure war systems. They are nothing special, you just put an RPG round on a drone and call it a day. That’s no way to run a business and make a profit if there is no war around.
It is simple yet not one company got it right out of 100s. You need bigger propellers and battery, higher voltage, but tiniest possible drone that can carry 5kg RPG-7 warhead to 10km and direct its jet properly. These jokers made one with 1kg payload and they are the closest ones.

https://dronexl.co/2023/02/01/ukraine-fpv-drones-rpg-7/

Russia alone is planning to employ 1 million people just in drone making. In addition to 3+ million of their other defense sector workers. Our silly defense sector is bragging about 6 billion usd export when world factories are making 0.6 trillion each year. Less than 1% of world's defense market.

No profit he says...
 
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This fascination with FPV drones with munition is really childish. Ukraine war is between two countries without proper EW countermeasures against them. If they were used against a country with one those cheap drones would drop like flies. Like when Azerbaijan reportedly used a Turkish one against Armenia and did just that. There is a reason every other drone and missile is being built to withstand EW countermeasures.

These drones work in Ukraine which became trench warfare and against Russian armour which for some reason operating its tanks without proper support around them. That meant death for tanks even in WWII ffs. Lesson from Ukraine shouldn't be to make cheapest drone possible and slap on the cheapest round we can find on it.
 

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This fascination with FPV drones with munition is really childish. Ukraine war is between two countries without proper EW countermeasures against them. If they were used against a country with one those cheap drones would drop like flies. Like when Azerbaijan reportedly used a Turkish one against Armenia and did just that. There is a reason every other drone and missile is being built to withstand EW countermeasures.

These drones work in Ukraine which became trench warfare and against Russian armour which for some reason operating its tanks without proper support around them. That meant death for tanks even in WWII ffs. Lesson from Ukraine shouldn't be to make cheapest drone possible and slap on the cheapest round we can find on it.
Not at all!

How many EW installations does Turkiye have for instance? Will it be enough for a long frontline, like in the case of Ukraine - Russia? Nope! No any country has that amount of EW systems available in sufficient numbers.

Current FPV's are radio controlled and vulnerable against EW (if sufficiently available everywhere) but they are quickly evoluting towards autonomous AI. Even EW will not stop them soon in a few years
 

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Not at all!

How many EW installations does Turkiye have for instance? Will it be enough for a long frontline, like in the case of Ukraine - Russia? Nope! No any country has that amount of EW systems available in sufficient numbers.

Current FPV's are radio controlled and vulnerable against EW (if sufficiently available everywhere) but they are quickly evoluting towards autonomous AI. Even EW will not stop them soon in a few years
That's the benefit of being able to develop and innovate such systems yourself - when the enemy does something you can come up with a countermeasure against it. Put jammers on drones. Harden the comms of your own drones. Make your drones work without remote control using AI, and who knows what else. War has always been measure, counter-measure.
 

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Frankly spaeking, unfortunatly there is no silver bullet against them... Atom-style programmable ammunition is problematic in Urban areas or in the protection of fixed high value soft targets. Directed energy weapons have its limitation in multiple target engagement compared to Atom-style programmable ammunition. Not only for EW systems but the Availability of all the above mentioned systems in sufficient numbers is the common problem.

What we have witnessed so far is just a trailer. No one has a sufficent answer against a hypothetical well organized swarm attack
 

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Baykar exported to 33 countries ther drones. Aselsan latest FLIR system is delivered to BAykar and will be used in no time, Aselsan Flir is delivered to tens of countries, Aselsan succes will be Wescam fail, they are in financial problems.

Wescam is still a company with a lot of customers. And they are a subsidiary of L3Harris. I don’t think they will be in a bad financial situation anytime soon.

The company which had problems was not Wescam but another Canadian company.
 

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