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Lol, do you think nobody thought of something like that before? Or did they revealed the formula?
It has certain limitations to he practical though, we are speaking of a coating to be applied on aircrafts or small drones.

It has to have a low density - ✓
It has to be usable for thin-film applications NA
It has to demonstrate those capabilities below a certain thickness NA
It has to provide an insulation and not conduct the contained heat to the inner fuselage NA

I am excluding mechanical properties so far.
 

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To add, the team that created the thing says they haven’t tested it against lasers yet and in everything they published, using it on drones is not mentioned. It’s a third party twitter channel claiming it could be used as a coating against lasers on drones. This might or might not be, but a highly heat resistant, cheap to build in bulk and light material have much bigger use cases in multiple fields. Drone self defence is not even at top ten. Hope more info comes out.
 

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To add, the team that created the thing says they haven’t tested it against lasers yet and in everything they published, using it on drones is not mentioned. It’s a third party twitter channel claiming it could be used as a coating against lasers on drones. This might or might not be, but a highly heat resistant, cheap to build in bulk and light material have much bigger use cases in multiple fields. Drone self defence is not even at top ten. Hope more info comes out.
Completely agreed, but the media approach shows how Turkish mind works: "Can we put it on a drone?"

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Apart from X and Facebook, we have no other sources.
If I didn't know better.... this is a Fake, the Mods should maybe block the X and Facebook Message in general if it doesn't come from an official source e.g. from the University of Malaya in X or Facebook Account.

Otherwise, the source is like a lukewarm fart on a hot summer night.

But I don't want to deny the poster of this message his seriousness, because he did it in good will.
 
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Apart from X and Facebook, we have no other sources.
If I didn't know better.... this is a Fake, the Mods should maybe block the X and Facebook Message in general if it doesn't come from an official source e.g. from the University of Malaya in X or Facebook Account.

Otherwise, the source is like a lukewarm fart on a hot summer night.

But I don't want to deny the poster of this message his seriousness, because he did it in good will.
https://www.iha.com.tr/malatya-habe...oruyacak-kompozit-madde-gelistirildi-94011405 some slightly more credible source
 

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One of my concerns is resistance to shear stress as skin is the primary component holding it. They state that the brittleness isn't awful like aerogel (Watch a few on YouTube if you don't know) which is similarly lightweight and highly insulating. I'm sure their next stop will be processability for complex shapes and structural tests with an application.
 

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(About alternative uses and structual concerns)
They are material engineers or chemists, when it comes to mechanics there are more concerns than brittleness and density of the material. This likely might have a better use in reentry vehicles than aerospace structures. See how unechoic tiles on submarines keep falling off after a simple voyage with no deep water visits.

But it is a good developmeny nonetheless, there are many other sectors which may benefit from this before the aerospace industry. Falls irrelevant to this thread imo.
 

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Kuveyt Dışişleri Bakanlığı için Ivechenko İlerleme Sunumu

Motor AI450-C2 (AKINCI için AI450 tabanlı ancak daha güçlü) bu forumda çok ünlü olan Uçak ile ilişkilendirilerek adlandırılmıştır.

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TAI Gelişmiş İHA.

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Motor hala test aşamasında ancak büyük ihtimalle AKINCI'ya ulaşacak.

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16.08.2021


AI-450CP-2 turboprop motorunun uzun vadeli ömür testleri

- “Ivchenko-Progress Test Kompleksi” sahasında, AI-450CP-2 turboprop motorunun planlanan bir sonraki uzun vadeli testi başarıyla tamamlandı.
- Haziran-Ağustos 2021 tarihleri arasında motor, 750 beygir gücündeki minimum gücün korunduğu 1.600 test çevriminden geçti.
- Elde edilen test sonuçları, motor için ilk bakım periyodunun 600 saat olarak belirlenmesinin mümkün olduğunu doğruladı.
- “Ivchenko-Progress” SE ekibi, AI-450CP-2 motoru için Uçuş Hazırlık Sertifikası'nın hazırlanması ve onaylanması ile uçuş testlerine başlama işlemlerini yürütecek.

Henüz Uçuş Testleri bile yapılmadı.



MIUS için ilginç

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AI-322F kullanılacak ama tasarım aşamasında bir varyant daha var.

MIUS Supersonic için AI-322F, 4200kgf (41 kN) maksimum itme gücüne sahiptir.

AI-322-30F'nin maksimum itme gücü 4900kgf (48 kN)'dir.



Ve daha önce bahsedilen bir Konsept. AI-9500F.

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Motorun 62 kN -> 93 kN arasında itme gücü sağlaması bekleniyor.

Gelecekteki Endeavors için potansiyel taşıyabilir.
Kızılelma New engine Al 322-30F 10800 ibf
 

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I know this is only the second version of the prototype, but why is the rear end so messy?
The rear engine area looks like a tube, why did they fit it so messily?
They could have done better, maybe lower the engine a bit from the height of the position.
 

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Bunun prototipin sadece ikinci versiyonu olduğunu biliyorum, ancak arka kısmı neden bu kadar dağınık?
Arka motor bölümü tüp gibi görünüyor, neden bu kadar kötü yerleştirmişler?
Daha iyisini yapabilirlerdi, belki motoru pozisyon yüksekliğinden biraz daha aşağıya indirebilirlerdi.
Dude it's more of a prototype
will be more perfect in mass production
 

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I know this is only the second version of the prototype, but why is the rear end so messy?
The rear engine area looks like a tube, why did they fit it so messily?
They could have done better, maybe lower the engine a bit from the height of the position.

The rear part looks made for a bigger engine. Baykar said that the first iteration of KE would be made subsonic, but I doubt they will actually mass produce it (but why would they already give it a name like Kızılelma-A if they weren't going to? Seriously this KE cannot be serialized..). Even the current prototype seems like it was made for a bigger engine fit on later on.

You mean like this?
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Not the same thing. We can see the sawtooth part of the fuselage being almost flush with the engine nozzle. KE's rear fuselage sawtooth ends have a massive gap with the tiny ass engine within. It's most certainly not gonna be that way on Baykar's idealized version of KE.
 

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I think they wanna leave room for other engine candidates. Besides this is a unmanned aircraft. We do not have to follow the manned craft rules strictly.
 

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I think they wanna leave room for other engine candidates. Besides this is a unmanned aircraft. We do not have to follow the manned craft rules strictly.
Yeah there's TF6000 but also the engine Baykar is developing as some derivative of the current one
 

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I guess it is done to have serrated edge covering the nozzle, as AI-322-30F doesnt have any serrated shroud, they just put it in a serrated placement on Kızılelma
 

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