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(About alternative uses and structual concerns)
They are material engineers or chemists, when it comes to mechanics there are more concerns than brittleness and density of the material. This likely might have a better use in reentry vehicles than aerospace structures. See how unechoic tiles on submarines keep falling off after a simple voyage with no deep water visits.

But it is a good developmeny nonetheless, there are many other sectors which may benefit from this before the aerospace industry. Falls irrelevant to this thread imo.
 

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Kuveyt Dışişleri Bakanlığı için Ivechenko İlerleme Sunumu

Motor AI450-C2 (AKINCI için AI450 tabanlı ancak daha güçlü) bu forumda çok ünlü olan Uçak ile ilişkilendirilerek adlandırılmıştır.

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TAI Gelişmiş İHA.

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Motor hala test aşamasında ancak büyük ihtimalle AKINCI'ya ulaşacak.

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16.08.2021


AI-450CP-2 turboprop motorunun uzun vadeli ömür testleri

- “Ivchenko-Progress Test Kompleksi” sahasında, AI-450CP-2 turboprop motorunun planlanan bir sonraki uzun vadeli testi başarıyla tamamlandı.
- Haziran-Ağustos 2021 tarihleri arasında motor, 750 beygir gücündeki minimum gücün korunduğu 1.600 test çevriminden geçti.
- Elde edilen test sonuçları, motor için ilk bakım periyodunun 600 saat olarak belirlenmesinin mümkün olduğunu doğruladı.
- “Ivchenko-Progress” SE ekibi, AI-450CP-2 motoru için Uçuş Hazırlık Sertifikası'nın hazırlanması ve onaylanması ile uçuş testlerine başlama işlemlerini yürütecek.

Henüz Uçuş Testleri bile yapılmadı.



MIUS için ilginç

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AI-322F kullanılacak ama tasarım aşamasında bir varyant daha var.

MIUS Supersonic için AI-322F, 4200kgf (41 kN) maksimum itme gücüne sahiptir.

AI-322-30F'nin maksimum itme gücü 4900kgf (48 kN)'dir.



Ve daha önce bahsedilen bir Konsept. AI-9500F.

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Motorun 62 kN -> 93 kN arasında itme gücü sağlaması bekleniyor.

Gelecekteki Endeavors için potansiyel taşıyabilir.
Kızılelma New engine Al 322-30F 10800 ibf
 

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I know this is only the second version of the prototype, but why is the rear end so messy?
The rear engine area looks like a tube, why did they fit it so messily?
They could have done better, maybe lower the engine a bit from the height of the position.
 

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Bunun prototipin sadece ikinci versiyonu olduğunu biliyorum, ancak arka kısmı neden bu kadar dağınık?
Arka motor bölümü tüp gibi görünüyor, neden bu kadar kötü yerleştirmişler?
Daha iyisini yapabilirlerdi, belki motoru pozisyon yüksekliğinden biraz daha aşağıya indirebilirlerdi.
Dude it's more of a prototype
will be more perfect in mass production
 

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I think they wanna leave room for other engine candidates. Besides this is a unmanned aircraft. We do not have to follow the manned craft rules strictly.
 

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I think they wanna leave room for other engine candidates. Besides this is a unmanned aircraft. We do not have to follow the manned craft rules strictly.
Yeah there's TF6000 but also the engine Baykar is developing as some derivative of the current one
 

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I guess it is done to have serrated edge covering the nozzle, as AI-322-30F doesnt have any serrated shroud, they just put it in a serrated placement on Kızılelma
 

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Anka 3 currently 2 prototype being tested, no date when they will start with munition test but they are planning to first in 2024.
 

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Anka 3 currently 2 prototype being tested, no date when they will start with munition test but they are planning to first in 2024.

He seems to be way more conservative with his assessments and timelines compared to Kotil. Just my opinion, of course.
 

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Imagine, in 3-4 years, the Kizilelma equipped with twin TF-10,000 or twin Al-322F engines will be able to reach Mach 1.5 speed and participate in air superiority combat exercises with the F-16 ILR. The Kizilelma is truly revolutionary, and it's exciting to imagine what it can achieve
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Anka 3 currently 2 prototype being tested, no date when they will start with munition test but they are planning to first in 2024.
Nice to see an update on this program. Probably one of the top 3 most important projects. With deep strike capabilities no one can f*ck with Turkey without serious consequences.

Also good to see Kızılelma coming along nicely, hopefully we see it in the inventory before the end of the year.
 

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I wonder how deep strike capable of stealth aircrafts ,aka anka 3,will be safe after rhe strike happened and on the way of return,if its not for nukes.They like submarines once detected its almost dead.They can not make supersonic flight but they should be fast to the limits as much as possible and they need protection from combat aircrafts manned or unmanned on their mid course of return,they are not cheap to sacrifice.Hava SOJ can bring some help to them,and they also should have self protection suits.
 
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I wonder how deep strike capable of stealth aircrafts ,aka anka 3,will be safe after rhe strike happened and on the way of return,if its not for nukes.They like submarines once detected its almost dead.They can not make supersonic flight but they should be fast to the limits as much as possible and they need protection from combat aircrafts manned or unmanned on their mid course of return,they are not cheap to sacrifice.Hava SOJ can bring some help to them,and they also should have self protection suits.
Well, we wouldn't just strike, for example, a facility all willy nilly, or at least I would hope so. The first target would be an enemy's air defence capabilities. And even if we did, its not like we would drop dump bombs from it. Iirc, Anka-3 can carry 2 SOM-J in its IWB, which has a range of 275 kms, assuming we use those at their proper range, there are only a handful of air defence systems that would be capable of engaging Anka-3 directly.
 
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