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[Era_shield]

@Cabatli_53 Can you do something about this intellectually defective troll please?

 

[Anmdt]

It is very important to advance in these technologies early. The level Turkey has reached in the production of strategic turboprop and turbodiesel drones is in a place that almost no one in the region have reached. While the first variants of Anka was able to carry 200kg payload, today's Anka carries 400kg. Although this technology exists in Europe, they do not attach importance to this field so they are currently developing projects to close this gap but they have problems with cost effectiveness. Similarly, there has not been much development in Europe apart from the technology demonstration concept called Neuron. If I remember correctly UK is working on a similar technology. Neuron was developed with a requirement with an air blush on the top, which mean it does not have high maneuvering features but MIUS is exactly like a combat aircraft. its air blushes on the sides and its vertical stabilizers at the back and canards at the head actually prove what Turkey is trying to do. MiUS will be supported by much more powerful turbofan engines in the future versions and It will reach supersonic speeds and prove its real efficiency at that time.

There are a few accessories that will make MIUS much more dangerous. One is the advanced long range AESA radar and the another one is the advanced ramjet AA missiles. They are all pieces of a big puzzle. Baykar'll produce an advanced jet UAV. Aselsan'll produce an advanced long range AESA radar, and SAGE ramjet AA missile... This combination is a photo that'll make the air forces of many countries sweat.

That is what we are talking about the "more efficient". F-35 is a perfect jet but ...There is an eye that watching you always. there is a hand that touching you always. There is a brain that think instead of you always...There's a computer and it's constantly whispering you to its owner.

F-33 is a still perfect fighter if you are U.S.

It is also important to say; TAF is getting ready for network enabled warfare by all means, it is a fact, regardless of how good and efficient an F-35 is -being perfect in sensor fusion, data processing, situational a Rwareness,F jammer and ECCM- , TAF will never be allowed for further integration of it into Turkish network thus making it quite useless for Turkey. Having stealth and 5th gen capabilities are important but it is not enough and it is not the future.
And independent of who is making MIUS, it will be running on Turkish software, with Turkish encryption and up-link and fully integratable into the Turkish network, in the worst case it will readily be a wingman for MMU, Hürjet or operated in MUMT-X scheme even by ships or helicopters.

 

[Manomed]

They deleted my posts because I was telling the truth Im gonna say it again circle jerking baykar won't make MIUS better than F35 MIUS is a drone F35 is a stealth jet miud doesn't have passive sensors and counter measures of the F35 cope. Baykar is the guy who said tanks were a old concept yeah how is Infantry gonna push? F35 will and always be better than MIUS 30 ton vs 6 ton F35 can destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected. Like I was saying you guys are bunch of uneducated people who think we can solve everything with drones get some help and cope that F35 is a better and more effective jet than MIUS lets believe everything baykar says be realistic

 

[Abdelaziz]

Mius is not f35 and is not intended to replace it .... Unmanned systems hasnt reached yet a level that make them replace the manned fighters ..especially with signals delay problem .. we know that in aerial fights parts of the second is enough to win/loss the battle ... so untill reaching the real time communication ... This is still a big drawback .. but if they designed mius with stealth tech (which i dunno what the level turkey reached with ) it can do some f35 air-ground sead/dead missions ..but still a long way to go

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Lots of uneducated people hete talking shit about F35 while having zero knowledge about fighters or aircrafts in general circle jerking baykar won't make MIUS better than F35

As advanced as the F-35 is, you have to remember that it has been made redundant. First it was touted as being a replacement for the F-16, but then when it was apparent that it didn't excel at dogfights, everything changed. All of a sudden, its deep strike capabilities became the main focus. It may defeat older fighters, but in a real war scenario is it really going to be able to defeat J-20s or other stealth jets which are better at air-to-air combat? No, the F-22 or its successor will be much more suitable for such tasks.

With TFX coming up, tell me again why we would need the F-35? Literally every major country which is acquiring the F-35 is also in the process of building their own 5th gen jets, and it's all because the F-35 simply isn't a great air-to-air platform due to its power-to-weight ratio. MIUS and other upcoming drones can be our bombers, we don't need overpriced F35s. And don't forget, our drones have something which the F-35 doesn't - impunity.

So F-35 is an excellent aircraft, and would have given us a great advantage over our neighbours. But, TFX and drones make it redundant, plain and simple.

 

[Kartal1]

They deleted my posts because I was telling the truth Im gonna say it again circle jerking baykar won't make MIUS better than F35 MIUS is a drone F35 is a stealth jet miud doesn't have passive sensors and counter measures of the F35 cope. Baykar is the guy who said tanks were a old concept yeah how is Infantry gonna push? F35 will and always be better than MIUS 30 ton vs 6 ton F35 can destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected. Like I was saying you guys are bunch of uneducated people who think we can solve everything with drones get some help and cope that F35 is a better and more effective jet than MIUS lets believe everything baykar says be realistic

If you continue calling names and especially while we have engineers, ex-military and people working in the industry around here because they are debating with you I will ban you. Plain and simple.

 

[Manomed]

If you continue calling names and especially while we have engineers, ex-military and people working in the industry around here because they are debating with you I will ban you. Plain and simple.

I was pointing out baykar was playing for the uneducated people when did I called names?

 

[Huelague]

They deleted my posts because I was telling the truth Im gonna say it again circle jerking baykar won't make MIUS better than F35 MIUS is a drone F35 is a stealth jet miud doesn't have passive sensors and counter measures of the F35 cope. Baykar is the guy who said tanks were a old concept yeah how is Infantry gonna push? F35 will and always be better than MIUS 30 ton vs 6 ton F35 can destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected. Like I was saying you guys are bunch of uneducated people who think we can solve everything with drones get some help and cope that F35 is a better and more effective jet than MIUS lets believe everything baykar says be realistic

I think we get the message. Thanks.

 

[Elaser]

30 ton vs 6 ton F35 can destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected.

HOw are you so sure of this? it is LO vs LO and both have AESA, ESM, EOTS, EW, internal weapons bay. One is smaller and lighter and has less range but has no pilot and is 7-8 times cheaper. How can F-35 destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected? Is F-35 ET technology? No they are equal and both have some advantages and disadvantages against each other. Do not say F-35 destroys MIUS easily. This is your biased opinion speaking.

How is F-35 good for Turkey if Turkey can only use half million dollar SOM and no kgk hgk lgk goktug etc.? Is Turkey going to shoot SOM against pkk in caves?

MIUS can do it better and cheaper and supersonic MIUS will destroy every non stealth fighter and is on average equal to 5th gen fighters.

Supersonic MIUS will be the best fighter-interceptor for Turkish airforce with 900km combat radius, enough to cover entire black sea and east med...

 

[Kartal1]

I was pointing out baykar was playing for the uneducated people when did I called names?

As stated in our forum rules attack the argument and show your arguments. Remarks like who is educated and who is not are not needed and are on the opposite of a good debate etiquette. Everybody is free to express his opinion and defend his point when questioned but please stay away from such remarks. Thank you!

 

[Manomed]

HOw are you so sure of this? it is LO vs LO and both have AESA, ESM, EOTS, EW, internal weapons bay. One is smaller and lighter and has less range but has no pilot and is 7-8 times cheaper. How can F-35 destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected? Is F-35 ET technology? No they are equal and both have some advantages and disadvantages against each other. Do not say F-35 destroys MIUS easily. This is your biased opinion speaking.

How is F-35 good for Turkey if Turkey can only use half million dollar SOM and no kgk hgk lgk goktug etc.? Is Turkey going to shoot SOM against pkk in caves?

MIUS can do it better and cheaper and supersonic MIUS will destroy every non stealth fighter and is on average equal to 5th gen fighters.

Supersonic MIUS will be the best fighter-interceptor for Turkish airforce with 900km combat radius, enough to cover entire black sea and east med...

Imagine comparing a stealth fighter jet with a drone can only be expected from a erdogan supporter MIUS can do strike missions but It wil get caught unlike F35 who done bombings against bases that was protected by s400 systems be realistic You are comparing a million dollar stealth fighter with a drone please educate yourself

 

[Stimpy75]

so plz enlighten us where it was used against S-400 protected systems(which were turned off because the Targets where iran backed troops/facilities)? you mean the israeli Adirs firing from Lebanaon airspace into syria....where else?

 

[nakaFH]

"Elon Musk said the US military's vaunted F-35 stealth jet "would have no chance" against a drone remotely piloted by a human."

An uneducated man; Elon Musk.
NO COMMENT...

 

[Manomed]

"Elon Musk said the US military's vaunted F-35 stealth jet "would have no chance" against a drone remotely piloted by a human."

An uneducated man; Elon Musk.
NO COMMENT...

Elon musk has no history in aircraft business or anything? He does not know anything about avionics nor jets flawed argument

 

[nakaFH]

Compare the two fighter pilots behind the console. One is in command of a single drone, with limited awareness and largely dependant on a sophisticated network. Other is in the field, in control of the mission, with much greater awareness and depth of field, and flirts with companion drones to complete the mission. I guess there is no comparison, unless you have a state of the art network system and sensors. That is exactly what we should aim for so that MIUS becomes a formidable war machine.

Think of that;
You have a superior artificial intelligence,
You have nothing to loose if necessary being a kamikaze,
You are a small agile snake difficult to see.

Who can be a bigger enemy than one has no fear.

 

[nakaFH]

Elon musk has no history in aircraft business or anything? He does not know anything about avionics nor jets flawed argument

İt's a joke I think

 

[Manomed]

İt's a joke I think

Elon musk has no history of making military jets? literally guy doesn't know anything about warfare

 

[Manomed]

Think of that;
You have a superior artificial intelligence,
You have nothing to loose if necessary being a kamikaze,
You are a small agile snake difficult to see.

Who can be a bigger enemy than one has no fear.

MIUS with that engine is not agile It can't run from a AIM-120 or Meteor

 

[Hexciter]

Proof of TB2s being sold to Ethiopia. Found by the Tigray forces.
Production date: May 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445097883838132226

 

[Combat-Master]

Proof of TB2s being sold to Ethiopia. Found by the Tigray forces.
Production date: May 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445097883838132226

Well, that more so suggests that Roketsan MAM-L has been sold, but without proper confirmation as to where that fragment is from, we can't be sure. Looks like MAM-L has lost some weight though, now around 19kg according to that spec sticker, it was around 22kg before.