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[Hexciter]

Well, that more so suggests that Roketsan MAM-L has been sold, but without proper confirmation as to where that fragment is from, we can't be sure. Looks like MAM-L has lost some weight though, now around 19kg according to that spec sticker, it was around 22kg before.

May be because of warhead type

PS: There’s YİPE (HE-Fragmentation) in serial in this case which was ZD (HEAT) in the previous.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

They deleted my posts because I was telling the truth Im gonna say it again circle jerking baykar won't make MIUS better than F35 MIUS is a drone F35 is a stealth jet miud doesn't have passive sensors and counter measures of the F35 cope. Baykar is the guy who said tanks were a old concept yeah how is Infantry gonna push? F35 will and always be better than MIUS 30 ton vs 6 ton F35 can destroy 3 4 MIUS easily without getting detected. Like I was saying you guys are bunch of uneducated people who think we can solve everything with drones get some help and cope that F35 is a better and more effective jet than MIUS lets believe everything baykar says be realistic

Bro! Calm down will you?
Nobody here has to agree with you.
You have your opinion and you're making sure you're getting it through.
That doesn't mean you have to attack others just because they don't hate the Bayraktars as much as you do.

You clearly have issues you should work on. Just calm down.

 

[Oublious]

Proof of TB2s being sold to Ethiopia. Found by the Tigray forces.
Production date: May 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445097883838132226

no Persian junk uav....

@Oryx

 

[Nutuk]

Elon musk has no history of making military jets? literally guy doesn't know anything about warfare

He did though sell a lot of flamethrower rifles against zombie apocalypse.

I have a smaller model which I use to torch the barbecue with

 

[Manomed]

Bro! Calm down will you?
Nobody here has to agree with you.
You have your opinion and you're making sure you're getting it through.
That doesn't mean you have to attack others just because they don't hate the Bayraktars as much as you do.

You clearly have issues you should work on. Just calm down.

I have issues for telling the truth lmao You weren't the one got your posts deleted. To all f-35 haters here be realistic

 

[Cabatli_TR]

I have issues for telling the truth lmao You weren't the one got your posts deleted. To all f-35 haters here be realistic

You don't have to love or hate anything. Express your thoughts with justifications without swearing, speaking bad, name calling or personalizing the issue and move on. Nobody has to think like you or be treated like circus monkeys with phrases like "uneducated, brainwashed" because they don't think like you. A big company cannot be "circus jerking" just because you don't like them. Unfortunately, we do not have a manual on how to discuss in this forums but instead of whining about your deleted posts, I suggest you calm down and look at the forum rules again.

 

[Mustafa27]

I don't understand to be honest, replying to him is just giving him more attention: considering that he adds nothing to the forum. I would just recommend putting him on ignore and just moving on.

 

[Manomed]

You don't have to love or hate anything. Express your thoughts with justifications without swearing, speaking bad, name calling or personalizing the issue and move on. Nobody has to think like you or be treated like circus monkeys with phrases like "uneducated, brainwashed" because they don't think like you. A big company cannot be "circus jerking" just because you don't like them. Unfortunately, we do not have a manual on how to discuss in this forums but instead of whining about your deleted posts, I suggest you calm down and look at the forum rules again.

If you give me uneducated replies I'll call you uneducated?

 

[Kartal1]

If you give me uneducated replies I'll call you uneducated?

Well here is the problem. I think we have a misunderstanding here. On our forum Ad Hominem is prohibited in order to support healthier environment and higher quality discussion. As @Cabatli_53 stated you have to read the rules and read them carefully. Sometimes such things happen but this must not be the standard.

For clarification on Ad Hominem below:

Ad Hominem​

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Direct quote from the forum rules below:

Ad-hominem
Refrain from attacking the poster making the argument. Attack argument itself . Focus on the discussion not on the poster.

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[Ryder]

Elon musk has no history of making military jets? literally guy doesn't know anything about warfare

Warfare is not static it changes.

Jet fighters are not invincible in the future you never know their role could be taken place by unmanned jets or they might have to work together.

 

[Ryder]

I recommend people studying the history of warfare from neolithic to present times

Look at the weapons and see how many got replaced overtime.

The industrial revolution even created a new way of warfare that left swords, muskets, cavalry, spears, axes to become obsolete.

We had bolt action rifles to assault rifles.

We had planes with primitive propeller engines to jet fighters. Now we have unmanned systems taking over.

We are going to see a evolution if not a revolution.

Arms race is heating up worldwide. The age of mass sacrificing is over its all about hitting your enemy with minimal losses without sacrificing as much.

Dont be surprised if robots start becoming the new form of infantry controlled by soldiers. We thought all this stuff was a work of fiction now its becoming a reality.

Never underestimate, humans ability to kill.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Loitering Dragon 60A. I believe Göksungur will be the drone like this but a bit faster for supersonic flights.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445109759963770881

 

[kimov]

Elon musk has no history in aircraft business or anything? He does not know anything about avionics nor jets flawed argument

Do you know that industry is called aerospace industry? Do you know that he runs a company in that industry which means that he has very good understanding what is coming next with respect to aerodynics and automation?

Anyway, it does not matter if F35 is better than MUIS at this point. What matters is that we will have an air-force developed by ourselves which will render 4th gen air-forces within 5-10year and 5th gen air-forces with in 10-15y obsolete for some critical missions.

The reason are very simple.
* There is nothing which prevent drone to have all sensors, agility or the physical shape (for stealth) as a manned fighter have while the opposite is not true.
* Computer react faster, monitor the environment better or communicate faster than any human can. A human can see 20km while a camera can see 100km in a wider range of the spectrum.
* A drone is cheaper so you can have numerical superiority, maybe up to a factor 20x for simpler drones which is a huge strategic advantage when you can mix high and low capability drones in the same theater. A fast and high performance drone can detect the enemy while the cheap stealth drone can carry the missile at longer ranges. This also means that you can cover a much larger area, again a strategic advantage.
* Drones are smaller and potentially slower which make them harder to detect, which means drones will shoot first. (so your 30ton for F35 it not an advantage in reality).
* No humans means that drones can take more dangerous roles which again is a very big strategic benefit.

People have a problem with you since you refuse to see the future and therefor your posts comes as we should not be dealing with drones.
People are simply sick of this mentality, specially when you call everyone which do not agree with as AKP/Baykar trolls.

Note, I dont say that F35 will be totally useless in 15y but a lot of the roles of the F35 will taken over by drones. Similarly, tanks are not obsolete but current gen drones have taken over some of the roll of tanks. This means you can have fewer fighter/tanks and replace the differance with more numerous and advanced drones.

Simply put, the near future will see a mix of manned and unmanned platforms to optimize the capabilities of the armed forces.

 

[Trakya_forever]

Loitering Dragon 60A. I believe Göksungur will be the drone like this but a bit faster for supersonic flights.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445109759963770881

With up to 300 km data link range, 10kgs payload and 1.5 Mach speed.

 

[Test7]

MIUS with that engine is not agile It can't run from a AIM-120 or Meteor

Can Rafale or another one run ?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Fedai swarm kamikaze drone

40km range
1h duration

 

[Manomed]

Can Rafale or another one run ?

Yes In a BVR or FOX 2 fight the combat jet has to do some manevuers to make the incoming missile less energetic with this It can be evaded

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445344755857121280

Havelsan-Transvaro - FEDAI Loitering Munition

Technical Details​

Max. AirSpeed	100 km/h
Max. Ceiling	500 meters (1600ft)
Range	40 km (25mi)
Flight Duration	1 Hour
Warhead	1.5kg (preformed fragmentation)
Recovery	Yes (Parachute)

 

[Nutuk]

Is Havelsan selling the Polish warmate drone?

 

[Tornadoss]

Is Havelsan selling the Polish warmate drone?

Maybe it's just representative.