TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[fushkee]

Its video drops online soon...

 

[Fx-gun]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717889573798232112

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717889573798232112

Okay, this time they went too far with all those cuts, they almost reached Liam Neeson jumping a chanlink fence number of cuts.

Let's hope next flights will all go without problems and they'll start production next year.

 

[Test7]

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Tb3 for ground bombing on terrorist with weak SAMs
and Steath Kizilelma for air to air fight with other countries airforces will be big step for our Anadolu replacment for f35.

 

[Oublious]

Tb3 for ground bombing on terrorist with weak SAMs
and Steath Kizilelma for air to air fight with other countries airforces will be big step for our Anadolu replacment for f35.

Drone will in the future able to go for DEAD missions, Destruction of enemy airdefence systems. In the end they will drop missiles like Kemankes for Baykar drones and Simsek for Tusas drones. It will go for army airdefence systems...

 

[Kaan Azman]

I hope we see a multi rack for KEMANKEŞ as KEMANKEŞ's frontal cross section is close to a MAM-L. You would be able to carry 6 KEMANKEŞ per TB3. Now imagine you attack an island with 5 TB3s armed with those, 3 armed with MAM-L and 2 armed with MAM-T.

 

[boredaf]

I hope we see a multi rack for KEMANKEŞ as KEMANKEŞ's frontal cross section is close to a MAM-L. You would be able to carry 6 KEMANKEŞ per TB3. Now imagine you attack an island with 5 TB3s armed with those, 3 armed with MAM-L and 2 armed with MAM-T.

Kemankeş's warhead weighs only 6 kg, from what Baykar has said. It can be useful against light armored targets, or delicate targets like radars, but it won't be a big game changer by itself. It's main advantage is its range.

 

[Kaan Azman]

There is a good reason I added MAM-T and MAM-L to the squadron. They ain't gonna keep those islands naked against airborne attacks. 5 TB3s with KEMANKEŞ can saturate air defense systems and after the cleanup is done, the rest can get crazy.

 

[boredaf]

There is a good reason I added MAM-T and MAM-L to the squadron. They ain't gonna keep those islands naked against airborne attacks. 5 TB3s with KEMANKEŞ can saturate air defense systems and after the cleanup is done, the rest can get crazy.

Mam-L would put TB2/3s squarely in air defense range, not just big systems but even some shoulder launched systems. And Mam-T is too heavy for TB3 to carry more than 2 at most, even then I'm not sure if its wing hard points are strong enough to carry 95 kgs. Not to mention Mam-T's range is still only 30kms, not nearly enough to justify risking a drone.

We have far better options for what you're suggesting than those two munitions. Kemankeş might be used to saturate air defences, I give you that but that's about it. Even then, I'm not sure about a rack for it, it is twice as long as Mam-L and half as long as Mam-T with a clearly bigger circumference.

 

[Kaan Azman]

TB3 is literally confirmed to use MAM-T

Double racks aren't limited to longitudinal placaments. Most even come as side-by-side

KEMANKEŞ (1.73 m) is longer than MAM-T (1.4 m)

Baseline MAM-L can reach a range of 15 km meanwhile MAM-L IIR can reach 25 km. TB3 will fly significantly higher and faster than TB2.

But you don't seem to read what I said properly. I said KEMANKEŞs coming first and the others coming later.

And what better options? If you know one just tell it. Hardest hitting munition TB3 can use is pretty much MAM-T which it can carry alongisde 2 extra BOZOKs or MAM-Ls.

 

[uçuyorum]

TB3 is literally confirmed to use MAM-T
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Double racks aren't limited to longitudinal placaments. Most even come as side-by-side

KEMANKEŞ (1.73 m) is longer than MAM-T (1.4 m)

Baseline MAM-L can reach a range of 15 km meanwhile MAM-L IIR can reach 25 km. TB3 will fly significantly higher and faster than TB2.

But you don't seem to read what I said properly. I said KEMANKEŞs coming first and the others coming later.

And what better options? If you know one just tell it. Hardest hitting munition TB3 can use is pretty much MAM-T which it can carry alongisde 2 extra BOZOKs or MAM-Ls.

Why not UMTAS? I mean it is same warhead as MAM-L right? This would also give it nice range, UMTAS-GM etc. It would be the higher end more expensive option.

 

[I_Love_F16]

meanwhile MAM-L IIR can reach 25 km

Surprisingly Roketsan doesn’t mention the IIR version on their website. It’s still the standard version with 15 Km range.

 

[Afif]

Honestly, at this point Turkish defence companies should transfer their Website management to our defencehub mods.

 

[boredaf]

If you know one just tell it

Alpagut has 60 kms of range with 11 kg warhead and it'll start mass production before TB3 does, so we'll have some ready. https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/docs/kataloglar/ENG/1672059154_alpagut-eng.pdf

UAV-230s used by an Akıncı or Aksungur would be even better option to follow as they have 150 kms of range.

Kemankeş has one advantage going for it, and that is its range. If you equip it along with shorter range munitions you're unnecessarily exposing a TB3 to risk, you can't be sure that it'll be able to reliably clear an area of aa threats with that low payload. No matter how Baykar would like to call it, it is a low payload loitering munition, not a cruise missile that can definitely obliterate a target.

 

[boredaf]

Surprisingly Roketsan doesn’t mention the IIR version on their website. It’s still the standard version with 15 Km range.

It was mentioned here

Roketsan'dan MAM Ailesine Yeni Üyeler | SavunmaSanayiST

ROKETSAN'IN MAM ürün ailesi artık Kızılötesi Görüntüleyici Arayıcı (IIR) başlık ile hedefine yönelicek. MAM-L IIR ve MAM-T IIR ilk kez IDEF’23’te sergilenecek.

www.savunmasanayist.com

While it reaches a range of 15 kilometers with the MAM-L laser designator head, it can reach a range of 25+ kilometers with the IIR head; While MAM-T UAVs reach a range of 30+ kilometers, with its new warhead it will be able to strike effectively at a range of 50+ kilometers.

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1718282927769854061

Kirgizistan playing with ther new toy...

 

[Anmdt]

Honestly, at this point Turkish defence companies should transfer their Website management to our defencehub mods.

Honestly most of them are busy with handing over the website management and social media management to the newbies and young people has no experience but connections. This is sad.

 

[Boz]

Bugün, yarın, ilelebet...
Today, tomorrow, forever...

We commemorate Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and his comrades in arms with respect & gratitude.

Happy 100th anniversary of our Republic. ​

 

[Oublious]