Pokemonte13
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any idea if will get a nozzle cover
Insight regarding the shootdowns of Akincis in Service with the Sudanese Armed Forces:
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ok guess after Pantsir UAE is trying FK 2000, sure a legitimate threat with an AESA radar .... we definitly can and should adapt ASAP with necessary adjustments yet another test ground for Akıncı's ammunition capabilities and Aselsan's pod family ... may be? We have a reputation to protect
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Yeah and maybe we can export those updated Akincis to the UAE as well, just like before. Maybe give them a KAAN prototype along with it so they can pass it off to the israelis.ok guess after Pantsir UAE is trying FK 2000, sure a legitimate threat with an AESA radar .... we definitly can and should adapt ASAP with necessary adjustments yet another test ground for Akıncı's ammunition capabilities and Aselsan's pod family ... may be? We have a reputation to protect
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Could you please kindly elaborate the connection between our plan of selling aircraft carrier to El Salvador and Guatemala's secret nuclear Weapons program everbody knows that we got the tec support from Aliens why to mind Jews. By the way alien Earth is fun even Stephen king said he loved it.
-I thought the subject was about the civil war in Sudan and who supports who ?
-since you posted it UEA supports RSF and We Turks support SAF. RSF now has FK 2000 dont you to think it is wise for us to take some action against a potantial danger in the field for the sake of supporting the side who uses our UAVs and the same side we have invested both politically and militarily?
who is talking about exporting updated Akincis to the UAE or KAAN ....... and Israel??? sorry man cant really follow your line of argument or logic.
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Im talking about whatever genius was behind the strategic mastermove to allow the sale of Akincis to the UAE in the first place. At that point you could just hand over all technical information about Turkeys platforms directly to the israelis.
Baykar confirms Akinci deliveries to UAE
The Turkish company Baykar announced on 1 January that it has delivered at least two of its Bayraktar Akıncı twin-engine unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to the United...
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I share your concerns about UAE but I strongly believe that we are not that innocent or naive ... nobody doesIm talking about whatever genius was behind the strategic mastermove to allow the sale of Akincis to the UAE in the first place. At that point you could just hand over all technical information about Turkeys platforms directly to the israelis.
Baykar confirms Akinci deliveries to UAE
The Turkish company Baykar announced on 1 January that it has delivered at least two of its Bayraktar Akıncı twin-engine unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) to the United...
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Sudan is not given long range weapons that can be used with their drones. Türkiye should give them some Kemankeş cruise missiles and IHA-230.
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That's the crux. They are using MAMs on Akıncı. It's a glorified TB2. Useless for modern proxy war, when the other side can deploy medium range SAMs on spot. We're not in 2020 anymore.
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The TB2 was originally developed for operations against armed groups without air defense. Given the gradual phaseout of the A10 and Su-25 attack aircraft, fragile the TB2 is even less suited for this role.
(In Ukraine, the TB2 no longer flies at the front or in operational depth, but only over the Black Sea, where the Russians cannot control the airspace.)
I think the same can be said about the Akinci. But the Akinci has many advantages over the TB2: it can fly higher, carry a larger payload, and carry relatively long-range missiles.
If Selçuk Bayraktar had been told 10 or 15 years ago that the TB2 he created would see action in intense combat, he probably would have been very surprised.
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The best munitions for the Akıncı are the ÇAKIR and the İHA-230. If Akıncı uses these weapons effectively, it can easily surpass the TB2 in capability. However, using MAM-L with the Akıncı feels pointless and unfortunately damages its prestige.
If footage emerges showing air defense systems being destroyed in Sudan with the İHA-230 (which has a 150+ km range), it could restore its reputation
If footage emerges showing air defense systems being destroyed in Sudan with the İHA-230 (which has a 150+ km range), it could restore its reputation
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I am not sure about our Surveillance capabilities in Sudan but guess as we all know that the issue is not just about MAMs, Kemankeş IHA 230 or Çakır or the rest from a seemingly endless list of ammunitions ..... but definitly Surveillance is also crucial i.e SIGINT, COMINT, ELINT in line with them EW and ECM capabilities either with on board systems or Land based ones.
Not just during our operations in Syria or Iraq But we should be able to provide these essentials satisfactoraly during our overseas operations like Sudan
Not just during our operations in Syria or Iraq But we should be able to provide these essentials satisfactoraly during our overseas operations like Sudan
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If ASELFIR-500/600 was used in Sudan, it could easily detect air defense systems from 60–80 km away. I don’t think there’s a problem with image intelligence; on the contrary, it’s possible that long-range munitions were simply not provided to Sudan.
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Integrated into our KIZILELMA."*
ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol:"KIZILELMA’s electro-optical surveillance system and radar system are here. These two products are of a complexity that only 2–3 companies in the world could achieve.
God willing, we’ll see KIZILELMA in the inventory next year. It will be a game-changer in the UAV world and open a new chapter. It will have a multiplier effect in Türkiye.
A similar version of this system’s camera and passive radar is also being used in KAAN."
probably 5 or 6 prototypes were integrated
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would love to see a tb4 with 400-600 payload capacity like mini akinci
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A scaled-down Akinci would look even more beautiful. Especially from the front.
But the intrigue is that we don't know what the next Bayraktar aircraft will be like. We remember how unexpectedly the Kizielma appeared!
Three of his four creations are completely different from each other. It's amazing! In this regard, of all the aircraft designers, he reminds me most of Kelly Johnson. The legendary Johnson! The U-2. The F-104 Starfighter, the fantastic Blackbird!
I consider the Kizielma his most beautiful creation.
Personally, I would like to see the Kizielma-2 with a payload of 4-5 tons. Especially since the twin-engine Kizielma was announced earlier.
