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[Afif]

Shahed doesn't cost that low mate, and this one carries as much firepower as 4 of those. This is not a Shahed/Geran copy. This carries a warhead equivalent of a MK-83 bomb, which weighs 1000 pounds, or about 450 kgs. So, using this is like dropping a MK-83 from 2000 km away, with precision guidance. If I had to guess, I would say it has 200 kg of insensitive explosive with some sort of prescored fragmentation sleeve instead of just steel or tungsten balls around it to save weight and if it explodes in the air, it would shred the fuck out of everything in a very good range even outside the blast zone.

And making that one is possibly the easiest thing in the world. TEI already produces the same engine as used in Gerans, PG-50 which is the same as the German engine Iranians copied, strap that to an aerodynamic body with 50 kg warhead and enough fuel and you have your Shahed.


Russia is using something similar, I've seen one of their solution literally gets launched from something like a gun.

Bro, its total warhead weight is 200kg. Not the explosive inside the warhead.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Kızılelma Teber and LGK-82 firing test. It was conducted by the prototype featuring Toygun so I would assume it did its own laser illumination too. Hopefully IWB tests at least for these type free fall munitions will follow soon

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033093116853407943

 

[Merzifonlu]

I believe we are currently in a transitional phase in drone warfare. Within five years, we will start countering drones with drones and missiles with missiles. Then, economic sustainability in defensive warfare will begin to emerge a little bit. The current position is illogical; we're deploying F16s to shoot down $10,000 drones.

Meanwhile, when will Kızılelma start firing these munitions from its internal weapon bay? This jet-powered drone is urgently needed.

 

[Sanchez]

Kızılelma Teber and LGK-82 firing test. It was conducted by the prototype featuring Toygun so I would assume it did its own laser illumination too. Hopefully IWB tests at least for these type free fall munitions will follow soon

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2033093116853407943

EOTS show off here is more important than the munitions launches; great capability. Looks like the LGK might have missed the designated mark.

The current position is illogical; we're deploying F16s to shoot down $10,000 drones.

American way of using APKWS on F-16s currently is the cheapest way to shoot down kamikaze drones before terminal phase. They can carry upwards of 14/28 guided rockets per aircraft. Engaging these drones is still a hard task. They are small and slow, gun kills are very hard for high performance aircraft.

An F-16 will in the medium term still have much shorter turnaround time than a drone like KE. An F-16 is also not that expensive to maintain for any country of our caliber; we spend 3 trillion liras per year to pay for annual interest payments; 15k/hour to defend against drones is kiddie numbers.

Events from january with drones coming from black sea; that's an interesting situation. We do not have specific anti-drone QRA flights ready. We have F-16s in various air bases on QRA, ready on the tarmac to answer against any air threats with best aircraft and missiles we have. Those are there to answer any threat; a single drone or an unexpected enemy fighter package. On the contrary, employing QRA KEs armed with anti drone munition along with our F-16s is another cost item that will cost money.

Meanwhile, when will Kızılelma start firing these munitions from its internal weapon bay?

Soon.

 

[Merzifonlu]

American way of using APKWS on F-16s currently is the cheapest way to shoot down kamikaze drones before terminal phase.

Actually, I was referring to the Akıncı. If it has radar and cost-effective missiles, it would be suitable for that task. Because iAkıncı can stay in the air for a relatively long time while on patrol duty.

 

[Sanchez]

Actually, I was referring to the Akıncı. If it has radar and cost-effective missiles, it would be suitable for that task. Because iAkıncı can stay in the air for a relatively long time while on patrol duty.

In an ideal world you use radars on the ground and in air(like in an Akıncı) to detect them and use fast moving high performance jets with pilots that can make on the spot decisions to undertake kill missions.

 

[boredaf]

Bro, its total warhead weight is 200kg. Not the explosive inside the warhead.

This isn't a MK bomb that needs to be put in a heavy steel casing mate, the whole body of the drone is already a casing, it is a kamikaze drone.

 

[Afif]

This isn't a MK bomb that needs to be put in a heavy steel casing mate, the whole body of the drone is already a casing, it is a kamikaze drone.

Yes, but UAVs body is not strong metal. That acts as penetrating sharpnel.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Looks like the LGK might have missed the designated mark.

Compared to US laser targeted missiles and even MAM-L firings, this is a poor shot. Baykar needs to address this deficiency. On top of it this was a shot on a stationary target. Laser guidance normally is good for moving targets.

 

[Sanchez]

Compared to US laser targeted missiles and even MAM-L firings, this is a poor shot. Baykar needs to address this deficiency. On top of it this was a shot on a stationary target. Laser guidance normally is good for moving targets.

Bomb and sight is from Aselsan; doubt it's much to do with Baykar. Of course stuff will be done to address them. They work hand in hand always.