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[Zafer]

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This is Göksungur UCAV. At the end of the year, the scale version will take off for tests.
I confirmed the design in the picture to my friend in TUSAŞ.

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi | son dakika Ankara haberleri

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi, son dakika Ankara haberleri

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By the way, the picture dates back 2 years

You are talking big. It better be right.

 

[Bogeyman]

You are talking big. It better be right.

I heard that the image was shared on the TUSAŞ linkedin page 2 years ago. Note the signature of Göksel Yildirim in this Anatolian news agency.

 

[Glass🚬]

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This is Göksungur UCAV. At the end of the year, the scale version will take off for tests.
I confirmed the design in the picture to my friend in TUSAŞ.

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi | son dakika Ankara haberleri

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi, son dakika Ankara haberleri

www.star.com.tr

By the way, the picture dates back 2 years

what the fuck, if this is the design we are making a warp drive.

 

[Zafer]

I heard that the image was shared on the TUSAŞ linkedin page 2 years ago. Note the signature of Göksel Yildirim in this Anatolian news agency.

The point here is it is being confirmed that they are actually working on such a design rather than this design being one of the possibilities. Such a delta design also supersonic is quite satisfactory as it is.

 

[Bogeyman]

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This is Göksungur UCAV. At the end of the year, the scale version will take off for tests.
I confirmed the design in the picture to my friend in TUSAŞ.

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi | son dakika Ankara haberleri

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi, son dakika Ankara haberleri

www.star.com.tr

By the way, the picture dates back 2 years

An addition. This bomber probably won't be supersonic. But a friend in TUSAŞ said that 3 months ago, a separate UCAV program was launched for MMU, and the loyal wingman style will work there. The concept was unclear.

 

[Bogeyman]

By the way, the tests may have been conducted in Germany.

DLR - Institut für Aerodynamik und Strömungstechnik - Projected Pattern Correlation (PROPAC) / Reflected Pattern Correlation (REPAC)

Das Messverfahren, “Projected Pattern Correlation” (PROPAC), stellt eine einfache Methode dar, um Oberflächenabweichungen quantitativ zu bestimmen. Typische Anwendungen sind beispielsweise die Erfassung von Geometrien von Windkanalmodellen in Abhängigkeit von der Windlast, die Erkennung von...

www.dlr.de

 

[TheInsider]

Today minister of industry announced the fighting UAV project. The fighting UAV project aims to bring A-A capability to existing and future UAVs. Soon we will have A-A capable UAVs.

2023 will be super fun.

That UCAV Boogeyman posted will be heavier than MIUS.
TB-2 Anka
MIUS- TAI UCAV

 

[Anmdt]

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This is Göksungur UCAV. At the end of the year, the scale version will take off for tests.
I confirmed the design in the picture to my friend in TUSAŞ.

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi | son dakika Ankara haberleri

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi, son dakika Ankara haberleri

www.star.com.tr

By the way, the picture dates back 2 years

(PDF) UCAV model design and static experimental investigations to estimate control device effectiveness and S&C capabilities

PDF | On Jun 16, 2014, Kerstin C. Huber and others published UCAV model design and static experimental investigations to estimate control device effectiveness and S&C capabilities | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Unfortunately.
Model seems to be the one designed in the given paper, PIV experiments could be one another set of the articles or for evolutionary purposes.
For the rest just check the corresponding author's other articles you may see they actively use this design for research purposes.

Andreas Schütte

Andreas Schütte currently works at the Department of Transport Aircraft (TF), German Aerospace Center (DLR). Andreas does research in Mechanical Engineering and Aeronautical Engineering. Their most recent publication is 'Control Device Studies for Yaw Control without Vertical Tail Plane on a 53°...

www.researchgate.net

They seem to work on that particular design since 2009.

TL: DR ; Don't trust Turkish defence news authors they recycle a lot of images from web without reference.

 

[TheInsider]

I have no idea about the design and shape of the TAI UCAV but now that the genie is out of the bottle I know that

-It is a big and heavy UCAV expect 5-6 tonnes or higher.
-It will have a turbofan engine
-Its mission endurance will be 8 hours.
-It will carry a big amount of payload. More than Akıncı.
-A scaled model will be/has already been produced. I expect the first flight of the scaled model to be done in a year.
- The first flight of the full-sized UCAV will be done in 2025.
-It will be made public at some point like other TAI projects. I think it will be publicly announced in 2023 at the latest(IMHO it will be announced sooner).
-It will be able to fly at supersonic speeds(I expect max speed to be around 1.2 mach maybe up to 1.4) but mostly execute missions at high subsonic speeds.
-It will have A-A capability but I don't know the details of its A-A capability(BVR, WVR, self-protection)
-It will be expensive but it will still be much cheaper than a manned fighter.

 

[Era_shield]

(PDF) UCAV model design and static experimental investigations to estimate control device effectiveness and S&C capabilities

PDF | On Jun 16, 2014, Kerstin C. Huber and others published UCAV model design and static experimental investigations to estimate control device effectiveness and S&C capabilities | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Unfortunately.
Model seems to be the one designed in the given paper, PIV experiments could be one another set of the articles or for evolutionary purposes.
For the rest just check the corresponding author's other articles you may see they actively use this design for research purposes.

Andreas Schütte

Andreas Schütte currently works at the Department of Transport Aircraft (TF), German Aerospace Center (DLR). Andreas does research in Mechanical Engineering and Aeronautical Engineering. Their most recent publication is 'Control Device Studies for Yaw Control without Vertical Tail Plane on a 53°...

www.researchgate.net

They seem to work on that particular design since 2009.

TL: DR ; Don't trust Turkish defence news authors they recycle a lot of images from web without reference.

Many countries are following a similar design, and the image isn't found anywhere else on the web that I could find.

 

[Anmdt]

Many countries are following a similar design, and the image isn't found anywhere else on the web that I could find.

Original image can be found DMW's website.
Whole of the experimental studies made by Andrea, which i have given in the link, is done by DLR.
That particular image is from DLR's website and not related to Goksungur or our drone programs.
Andrea is a senior researcher from DLR.

Institute of Aerodynamics and Flow Technology - Projected Pattern Correlation (PROPAC) / Reflected Pattern Correlation (REPAC)

Das Messverfahren, “Projected Pattern Correlation” (PROPAC), stellt eine einfache Methode dar, um Oberflächenabweichungen quantitativ zu bestimmen. Typische Anwendungen sind beispielsweise die Erfassung von Geometrien von Windkanalmodellen in Abhängigkeit von der Windlast, die Erkennung von...

www.dlr.de

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Today minister of industry announced the fighting UAV project. The fighting UAV project aims to bring A-A capability to existing and future UAVs. Soon we will have A-A capable UAVs.

2023 will be super fun.

That UCAV Boogeyman posted will be heavier than MIUS.
TB-2 Anka
MIUS- TAI UCAV

I think We will see two fighter jet drone in different categories.

Tactic (up to 4-5ton MTOW) near supersonic fighter jet drone - MIUS

Strategic fighter jet drone- TISU/MIUS and supersonic lighter wingman drone.

 

[kimov]

Short history about Karayel

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Mustafa VARANK: "When we launch our fighting UAVs, the world will talk about the fighting UAVs developed by Turkey, not F-35s,"

 

[neosinan]

Mr Mustafa VARANK: "When we launch our fighting UAVs, the world will talk about the fighting UAVs developed by Turkey, not F-35s,"

At This point, I'm trying to suspect/hope for TFX project is evolving into not Only 1 Manned Fighter Jet (like we saw in the mock-up etc) But Also One Fighter UCAV with same infrastructure and sensors.

Afaik, Development of Such Airframe wouldn't be more than 100-200m$, If we were going to put same AESA radar, IRST and Avionics And were to use same test benches and supercomputers etc.

 

[Huelague]

View attachment 22538

This is Göksungur UCAV. At the end of the year, the scale version will take off for tests.
I confirmed the design in the picture to my friend in TUSAŞ.

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi | son dakika Ankara haberleri

Üniversitelere milli savaş uçağı görevi, son dakika Ankara haberleri

www.star.com.tr

By the way, the picture dates back 2 years

Are you sure about „B-2“ design? What is the reason of delaying the project?

 

[Huelague]

Çağatay CGT50 UAV System is Exhibited in Eskişehir for the First Time

Çağatay CGT50 UAV System is Exhibited for the First Time in Eskişehir - The Çağatay CGT50 UAV System, developed by Coşkunöz Defense and Aviation and UAVERA, is exhibited for the first time in Eskişehir. Coşkunöz Holding

www.raillynews.com

 

[Huelague]

Specs are shit.

 

[comolokko]

Çağatay CGT50 UAV System is Exhibited in Eskişehir for the First Time

Çağatay CGT50 UAV System is Exhibited for the First Time in Eskişehir - The Çağatay CGT50 UAV System, developed by Coşkunöz Defense and Aviation and UAVERA, is exhibited for the first time in Eskişehir. Coşkunöz Holding

www.raillynews.com

it needs to be developed. yes, we respect the effort and support such projects, but we should not let people make fun of our intelligence. at first glance caught my attention a funny infrared camera on the tail .

 

[Blood raven]

At This point, I'm trying to suspect/hope for TFX project is evolving into not Only 1 Manned Fighter Jet (like we saw in the mock-up etc) But Also One Fighter UCAV with same infrastructure and sensors.

Afaik, Development of Such Airframe wouldn't be more than 100-200m$, If we were going to put same AESA radar, IRST and Avionics And were to use same test benches and supercomputers etc.

I see very slim chance of tfx being made into a ucav. Fighting air to air is a very complex task and the input of the driver is very important and cannot be delayed/disrupted in such situations.