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95% of what he's posted has been propaganda. I'm actually surprised he has been tolerated for so long. There is getting the other side of the story and then there is acting as a propaganda mouth piece for the kremlin to justify an illegal war and all the brutal murder, rape and pillage that comes with it.
Wait are you telling me the west does not have propaganda, but everything said by them is the truth? I feel like the only reason your interested in Russia's defeat is 1. Your pretty much like the poles seeing historic self procliaimed land like I am pretty sure a lot of Turks here see the tartars as brothers. 2. Russia is still not weakened to the point that any future excursions to Syria for Turkey will be difficult because of Iran getting S-400s and Su-35s, Iranians and Syrians are still formidable opponents, turks dont trust jews enough that lobbied against them in acquiring F-35s and of course the modern militarization plans for Turkey's military i think might have hit a wall since I think the spending would be invested rebuilding infrastructure after the earthquake which based on that brutal death poll.

I am assuming you never gave a shit about a neo-Nazi government in Ukraine for those following 2 reasons. people have argued against a Turkish 4chan /pol/ user updating us every day about Ukraine winning, that we found him as a funny poster but felt sad that he left us when updating /chug/ threads every day because I think he died in the earthquake. Wonder if any users here knew him.

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As you can see in the 4chan /pol/ /chug/ threads we tolerate different opinions like from Cem, but strange some users like yourself do not like that?
 

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Yeah I've talked to the admins too and I think there's going to be some sort of re-writing on how it should work in here especially when we have users like this. The admins know which one is here for babbling nonsense and the one's here for updates and discussions.

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Yeah I've talked to the admins too and I think there's going to be some sort of re-writing on how it should work in here especially when we have users like this. The admins know which one is here for babbling nonsense and the one's here for updates and discussions.
90% of my posts either show destroyed Ukrainian equipment, political decisions by leaders in the war or them getting encircled or pushed back. But I will do as the romans do here by making only up to 9 posts with single links like another poster did here since no one still has specified what is considered flooding posts. I know you love having discussions with me a lot on this forum and we don't want to miss that.
 

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90% of my posts either show destroyed Ukrainian equipment, political decisions by leaders in the war or them getting encircled or pushed back. But I will do as the romans do here by making only up to 9 posts with single links like another poster did here since no one still has specified what is considered flooding posts. I know you love having discussions with me a lot on this forum and we don't want to miss that.
You didn't get it aren't you ? The situation now is the mods (multiple of them) are increasingly seeing you as a disturbance, independent of what I think of you or my enjoyment to debunk your propaganda . If one day let's say they decide to pull the plug. That's it for you.
 

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You didn't get it aren't you ? The situation now is the mods (multiple of them) are increasingly seeing you as a disturbance, independent of what I think of you or my enjoyment to debunk your propaganda . If one day let's say they decide to pull the plug. That's it for you.
Oh, so this is cancel culture similar to the LGBT community getting pissed at streamers playing harry potter is what you are telling me?
 

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not tolerating other people for being different with different ideas is pretty nazi to me but than again that is beginning to make more sense why certain people here support Azov. I dont understand why I would get accused of propaganda if I show information that Ukraine is getting pushed back by Wagner, what got destroyed, political decisions on the war, etc. Is this forum a safe space to forget that real life is a pain or is it about discussing different ideas? People treat this war like a sports game with the assumption that there favorite team will never lose no matter what than looking at other important details that should not be dismissed on this war. Personally, if I have people crying to me about a user having different ideas, I would tell them to grow a pair or go debate them.

Is this like a CIA, NSA operated forum to keep the general population stupid with other media outlets like these two hacks rehearsing the same talking points as some users here?
Not even insulting anyone here personally unless they do the same to me. So where is the problem? I am accused of flooding this forum but where are the stated rules that is considered flooding? Again, I will post here normally like Ecderha which I am assuming shouldn't be a problem regarding flooding so that this issue is addressed. I have no idea if people here are OK to admit this forum is too scared to challenge other people with different ideas either, because If I get banned for anything trivial like that than that is what it will prove.
 

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Russian Federation lost 103 pieces of equipment near Ugledar and Avdiivka in three days - Oryx

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Under Ugledar, the invaders lost dozens of tanks

Oryx analysts told how much equipment the Russians lost on February 8-10 during the assault on Ugledar and Avdiivka.

During the unsuccessful assaults on Ugledar and Avdiivka, the invaders lost 103 pieces of equipment in three days (February 8-10), including 36 tanks. This was reported by the Dutch website for defense analytics and military research Oryx.


Losses of the Russian Federation per day: 10 UAVs and 900 invaders

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February 12, 2023,

Enemy losses approaching 138,000 killed

The total number of losses of the Russian army since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine is 137,780 military.

Over the past day, the Ukrainian military eliminated another 900 Russian invaders. The total number of losses of the army of the aggressor country of Russia since the beginning of the war now stands at 137,780 people. This was announced by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the morning of Sunday, February 12.


 
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Real losses of Russian troops and the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the SVO in Ukraine in 2023: how many dead and missing, the latest news today February 9, 2023


What is known about the real losses of the Russian and Ukrainian armies during the SVO at the moment?

The political scientist compared the losses of the Russian and Ukrainian armies during the SVO: the latest data for February 9, 2023

Sergei Markov, an expert in the field of political science, commented on the comparative losses of the advancing Russian troops and the retreating Ukrainian ones. Markov disputes the notion that an advancing army always suffers greater losses than a defending one, and argues that the Russian armed forces suffer far fewer losses than the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

He recommends turning to World War II data, which shows that the 1-to-3 ratio is not always respected.

The political scientist noted that the Russian armed forces are led by their own, who care about the soldiers, which cannot be said about the Ukrainian army. In his opinion, the United States and Great Britain are less favorable to Ukrainians.

At a briefing on March 25, 2022, Colonel-General Sergei Rudsky reported for the first time since the beginning of the operation that the Russian military had suffered losses in personnel.

Colonel-General outlined the losses of the Russian side as follows: "Unfortunately, during a special military operation there are losses among our comrades-in-arms. To date, 1,351 servicemen have been killed, 3,825 have been injured."

On September 21, 2022, Sergei Shoigu, Russia's defense minister, said that The losses of Ukrainian troops since the beginning of the SVO amounted to 61,000 people, while the death toll from Russia was 5,937 people.
One can argue about the degree of bias between the words of Rudsky and Shoigu, but the statistics presented by them are more like the truth than the data of Kiev, according to which, as of September 21, 2022, the Ukrainian armed forces were allegedly able to destroy more than 55 thousand Russian servicemen with minimal losses on their part.

Shoigu voiced the real losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2023 - accurate data for today

According to official data of Sergei Shoigu, since the beginning of 2023, the armed forces of Ukraine have lost more than 6.5 thousand people. In addition to human losses, the following were destroyed:

  • 208 drones;
  • 341 combat vehicles (including tanks);
  • 40 multiple launch rocket systems;
  • 7 helicopters;
  • 26 aircraft.
The Minister of Defense recalled that since the beginning of the year, during the offensive in the Donetsk direction and in the area of Zaporozhye, the following large settlements were liberated:

  • Soledar;
  • Castor oil;
  • Podgornoye;
  • Krasnopillya;
  • Fertile;
  • Pubic;
  • Nikolaevka.
Success was noted in the area of Ugledar and Artemovsk.
McGregor, a former adviser to the US Secretary of Defense, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have lost about 257,<> personnel since the beginning of the special military operation. General Zaluzhny also announced this figure during his trip to America.

The United States announced huge losses among the servicemen of Ukraine: the latest news on February 9, 2023

Frontline medical institutions and military hospitals are overloaded with a stream of wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who suffered heavy losses in battles with the Russian army. In addition, supplies such as uniforms, ammunition and weapons are in short supply in the zone of conflict.

This is written by the American newspaper New York Times. Those who monitor the situation in the frontline region paid close attention to medical institutions. It is reported that hospitals and morgues of Ukraine are overcrowded with servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

"In civilian life, you know that no matter how terrible your shift is, it will end sooner or later. You never know when it will end here," said Miroslav Dubenko, a military surgeon at one of the hospitals visited. vbanke.info
 

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Near Bakhmut, Russia lost 200 people last day



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The situation near Bakhmut

In the area of Bakhmut itself, 48 shelling and 19 clashes took place, battles were also fought in the area of Torsky, Fedorovka, Ivanovsky and Chasovoy Yar.

In the Bakhmut direction, 41 clashes took place during the day, the enemy lost 212 people killed and 315 wounded, said Sergei Cherevaty, speaker of the Eastern Group of Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on the air of the telethon.



"The Bakhmut segment of the front remains the main direction of the enemy's strike. There, 167 times, the enemy struck various types of barreled rocket artillery along the entire segment of the front, 41 clashes occurred, during which the enemy lost 212 servicemen killed and 315 wounded. In the area of Bakhmut itself, 48 shelling and 19 clashes, battles were also fought in the area of Torsky, Fedorovka, Ivanovsky and Chasovoy Yar," Cherevaty said.

According to him, also "for many days in a row the enemy sets records for hitting artillery fire" in the Liman direction and in the Luhansk region.:
During these days, there were 424 shelling by various types of artillery and 23 clashes. The enemy also lost 69 invaders killed and 126 wounded. In addition, the Russians lost 5 T-72 tanks, 1 Tigr armored vehicle, Gvozdika mortar and two Pion self-propelled guns.

Cherevaty expressed his belief that, on the contrary, the Defense Forces in eastern Ukraine are depleting the enemy so that they cannot conduct major offensive operations.

"Now the defenders of the east of Ukraine are doing an incredible thing - they are exhausting the enemy and inflicting losses in manpower and equipment, which certainly affects both the quality of the enemy's military operations and his morale. I think that it is the Defense Forces East, they are doing everything to make the enemy exhausted and unable to carry out large offensive operations.At a time when, under the command of the Commander-in-Chief, Chief of the General Staff, reserves are being prepared to deliver a decisive blow to the enemy and drive them back from our territory.Using, of course, the help of our partners from the free world," Cherevaty stressed.
 
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Occupants may attract Kurdish mercenaries

TEXT: OLESIA KRASNOLUTSKA, February 12, 2023,



The Russians may involve Kurdish mercenaries in drone attacks in Ukraine, the Main İntelligence Directorate reports, citing another audio interception.

The Russian military is enlisting Kurdish mercenaries in drone attacks on Ukrainian territory. This assumption was made in the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense.





Thus, the MID of MD published another audio interception of the conversation of the invaders during a massive attack on Ukraine by kamikaze drones on February 10. We are talking about a short dialogue between two Shahed operators, which specify the coordinates of the target.

It is noted that the interlocutors communicate in a dialect of the Kurdish language interspersed with words in Farsi.

"That is, the command of the occupying forces involves not only Iranian instructors in attacks on the territory of Ukraine, who teach the Russians how to use drones. This interception may indicate, however, that Kurdish mercenaries who have experience in the combat use of Shahed are also fighting on the side of the Rashists," the message says.

Added that during operations in Syria, Russian troops attracted armed detachments, which consisted of Kurdish and Afghan mercenaries.
 

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