Wait are you telling me the west does not have propaganda, but everything said by them is the truth? I feel like the only reason your interested in Russia's defeat is 1. Your pretty much like the poles seeing historic self procliaimed land like I am pretty sure a lot of Turks here see the tartars as brothers. 2. Russia is still not weakened to the point that any future excursions to Syria for Turkey will be difficult because of Iran getting S-400s and Su-35s, Iranians and Syrians are still formidable opponents, turks dont trust jews enough that lobbied against them in acquiring F-35s and of course the modern militarization plans for Turkey's military i think might have hit a wall since I think the spending would be invested rebuilding infrastructure after the earthquake which based on that brutal death poll.95% of what he's posted has been propaganda. I'm actually surprised he has been tolerated for so long. There is getting the other side of the story and then there is acting as a propaganda mouth piece for the kremlin to justify an illegal war and all the brutal murder, rape and pillage that comes with it.
I am assuming you never gave a shit about a neo-Nazi government in Ukraine for those following 2 reasons. people have argued against a Turkish 4chan /pol/ user updating us every day about Ukraine winning, that we found him as a funny poster but felt sad that he left us when updating /chug/ threads every day because I think he died in the earthquake. Wonder if any users here knew him.
As you can see in the 4chan /pol/ /chug/ threads we tolerate different opinions like from Cem, but strange some users like yourself do not like that?