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Happy to see this as I was posting about wanting to see it happen a couple weeks ago...

North Macedonia 🇲🇰 is donating its 12, MI-24 attack helicopters to Ukraine. Ukraine already flies the MI-24n but these will add to the fleet.

My understanding is that some number of these helicopters are not air worthy, but can be canabilized for much needed parts. Efforts like these will greatly aid Ukraine in their combined arms effort for their upcoming offensive. They need as much airborne capability as possible heading into the summer months.

I'm calling on Czech Republic 🇨🇿, Poland 🇵🇱, Bulgaria 🇧🇬 and Georgia 🇬🇪 to donate all of their Russian made attack helicopters as well. I'm also calling on countries such as Canada 🇨🇦, Belgium 🇧🇪 and Netherlands 🇳🇱, who are running out of their own supplies to provide Ukraine, to help reimburse the above countries for those donations, so they can buy Western replacements.

 

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Five days ago, the Chinese president met with Putin in Moscow. They stated that they were positive about economic and political unity and progress on this issue, and they decided to move forward.

However, they did not declare a decision regarding the military or defense sector. Only the Chinese side stated that the war between Ukraine and Russia should be ended as soon as possible, and that the Chinese side would attempt to reach a peace agreement.

The Russian side brought up the energy need of China and presented new resources.

This meeting that Russia held with its closest ally before the expected spring attack is remarkable.

In some comments, it is written that Russia is trying to secure its back with China as a precaution against every possibility and outcome before the spring attack. If things go wrong and the Russians are weak, the first aid source is China.

As you know, the common enemies USA and its gang are pressing China militarily, economically and politically. So this cooperation seems vital for both countries.
 

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Please tell me; How many more banks in the west have to go bankrupt for the Ukrainian people to get rid of the molars of capitalism. How many more oligarchs and bureaucrats have to die in Russia for the Ukrainian people to get rid of the molars of Russian hegemony.

I think people in the west should speed up the process by withdrawing their money from banks. In Russia, the massacre of oligarchs and bureaucracy should be started by the people.

The French, on the other hand, can take Macron's watch from her wrist and give the money to the Ukrainian immigrants after selling the watch.
 
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Please tell me; How many more banks in the west have to go bankrupt for the Ukrainian people to get rid of the molars of capitalism. How many more oligarchs and bureaucrats have to die in Russia for the Ukrainian people to get rid of the molars of Russian hegemony.

I think people in the west should speed up the process by withdrawing their money from banks. In Russia, the massacre of oligarchs and bureaucracy should be started by the people.

The French, on the other hand, can take Macron's watch from her wrist and give the money to the Ukrainian immigrants after selling the watch.
You need not worry about the West. A smaller number of banks are truly struggling. Most will be fine.

Russia on the other hand, is a complete disaster. Not only do a significant portion of their people live in poverty, 20-25% of their population still doesn't have indoor plumbing. In many respects, they're multiple decades behind the West. As the war continues, and the West not only freezes a good majority of Russia's foreign assets, but also starts liquidating them, it will only be worse for Russia. They'll be in inccuring tens of billions of dollars of debt each month this war continues and the West will start paying for the war with liquidated Russian assets. Essentially, Russia will be paying both sides of a losing conflict, as their economy contracts, while neutering their army for a generation.

This was a horrible geopolitical move by Russia. By the end of this conflict They'll be nothing more than petro slaves to China and India, but a pariah from most of the developed world.
 
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I quite agree with Shirvan especially in the last half of the video. Manpower, is Russia's largest advantage in this war.

Especially now we know that this war be a long war, possibly spanning decades even after Russia is expelled from all land it occupied. Attrition will be their largest weapons of war, now that Russia has launched its military version of "social credit" system targeting minorities, dissidents and criminals to be thrown into the frontlines.

I'm also not shocked at all when I find that there's a jump from from 6% to 48% of American Republicans thinking that they're paying too much for the war in Ukraine and considered like quitting. People who have watched the last war in the Viet Nam and the Middle East knows to well how the West is not in the game of endurance.

Viet Cong and the Taliban winning wars spanning decades after getting pummelled non stop should be a warning to countries that depended its continued fighting from the good will of donations. Long war is not in your interest.

If anything a hybrid low-high intensity conflict could be used by Russia the way the Taliban and Viet Cong scrape U.S will to go to war through the years. But unlike the Taliban and Viet Cong. Russia's war in Ukraine has the backing of advanced industrial country and possibly a safe heaven more safe than Pakistan will ever be to the Taliban or North Viet Nam will be to the Viet Cong.

Sometimes its endurance...not brilliance that win wars.

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I quite agree with Shirvan especially in the last half of the video. Manpower, is Russia's largest advantage in this war.

Especially now we know that this war be a long war, possibly spanning decades even after Russia is expelled from all land it occupied. Attrition will be their largest weapons of war, now that Russia has launched its military version of "social credit" system targeting minorities, dissidents and criminals to be thrown into the frontlines.

I'm also not shocked at all when I find that there's a jump from from 6% to 48% of American Republicans thinking that they're paying too much for the war in Ukraine and considered like quitting. People who have watched the last war in the Viet Nam and the Middle East knows to well how the West is not in the game of endurance.

Viet Cong and the Taliban winning wars spanning decades after getting pummelled non stop should be a warning to countries that depended its continued fighting from the good will of donations. Long war is not in your interest.

If anything a hybrid low-high intensity conflict could be used by Russia the way the Taliban and Viet Cong scrape U.S will to go to war through the years. But unlike the Taliban and Viet Cong. Russia's war in Ukraine has the backing of advanced industrial country and possibly a safe heaven more safe than Pakistan will ever be to the Taliban or North Viet Nam will be to the Viet Cong.

Sometimes its endurance...not brilliance that win wars.

saigon.jpeg

2022-08-15T102328Z_197124416_RC2YWV95IODW_RTRMADP_3_AFGHANISTAN-CONFLICT-ANNIVERSARY.jpg


If anything, it will not be Mach 10 Zircon or hard banging Sarmat that people has to be worry at. Its the graph that you should be staring at.


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All 3 ended in U.S retreat and even acknowledgement of their sworn enemies (Communist Vietnam and Islamist Taliban)

Let's see how this graph will develop.

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If anything, it will not be Mach 10 Zircon or hard banging Sarmat that people has to be worry at. Its the graph that you should be staring at.


432-1.gif

770-1.gif

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All 3 ended in U.S retreat and even acknowledgement of their sworn enemies (Communist Vietnam and Islamist Taliban)

Let's see how this graph will develop.

20230311_WOT236.png
Can you give me a link to the graphics you posted?
I hope you can help me with my research on the subject.
 

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Can you give me a link to the graphics you posted?
I hope you can help me with my research on the subject.
 

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They can achieve more and earn more in Africa.

Honestly reading reports of Turkish drones hitting wagner scum in Libya made my day.

Too bad cowardly government agreed to the Russians to allow wagner to withdraw to Sirte and Al Jufra which allowed them to dig in.

Wagner Group has already suffered heavy casualties in Ukraine compared to its African campaigns.

Every time wagner faces a state like Turkiye, Usa and Ukraine they usually get themselves blown apart.

Its not worth it when they could go and loot diamonds.
 

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They can achieve more and earn more in Africa.

Honestly reading reports of Turkish drones hitting wagner scum in Libya made my day.

Too bad cowardly government agreed to the Russians to allow wagner to withdraw to Sirte and Al Jufra which allowed them to dig in.

Wagner Group has already suffered heavy casualties in Ukraine compared to its African campaigns.

Every time wagner faces a state like Turkiye, Usa and Ukraine they usually get themselves blown apart.

Its not worth it when they could go and loot diamonds.
One of the main attraction of Wagner as a fighting force is higher pay for specialist. Hence Wagner is full of Russian military specialist willing to serve under Prigozhin's banner for better pay. The problem is the fighting in Ukraine has killed a good number of their specialists and trained personel, now Wagner is filled with people with no military background whatsoever/.

Wagner failed its CT ops in Mozambique while at its prime, I'm still wondering what will be future Wagner performance in Africa filled with convicts which is no more trained than the local Qaeda, ISIS franchise fighting in Mali and Mozambique.
 

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One of the main attraction of Wagner as a fighting force is higher pay for specialist. Hence Wagner is full of Russian military specialist willing to serve under Prigozhin's banner for better pay. The problem is the fighting in Ukraine has killed a good number of their specialists and trained personel, now Wagner is filled with people with no military background whatsoever/.

Wagner failed its CT ops in Mozambique while at its prime, I'm still wondering what will be future Wagner performance in Africa filled with convicts which is no more trained than the local Qaeda, ISIS franchise fighting in Mali and Mozambique.

When it comes to fighting terrorism.

Wagner are just useless really. Numerous times they got their asses handed to them by Isis or Al Nusra.

I dont think those convicts will fare any better in the African landscape. African landscape will be full of rebels, groups and wild animals. They will be ambushed left and right.

If they go around looting and doing unwarranted killings that will just piss the locals off even more.

Prigozin wasted a lot of his men in the Ukrainian debacle. You can tell his pissed off with his own incompetent state.
 

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anyone who has seen Iran and North Korean defense industry survive the sanctions on material would have known that last year ban/ boycott on goods towards Russia would have the very same effect...null.

Iran flew its F-14 with smuggled U.S parts up until 2007. Has U.S chips in its ballistic missile even though there's officially no way of them to have one.

For one, isolation creates a whole new economy based on trafficking parts. One segment of the economy becomes a loser (the official importers) while the other segment flourishes ( the traffickers).

The West really are underestimating their enemy's capability again and again by declaring that Russia will capitulate after there's no longer trade between them.
 

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I'm also not shocked at all when I find that there's a jump from from 6% to 48% of American Republicans thinking that they're paying too much for the war in Ukraine and considered like quitting. People who have watched the last war in the Viet Nam and the Middle East knows to well how the West is not in the game of endurance.

In both Viet Nam and Middle East, the US had boots on the ground. This means dead American soldiers, coffins flying back home. This is something the population doesn’t like and can turn against pretty quick. In Ukraine, there are no American troops doing the fighting, so the main problem from a US point of view is resolved.

Viet Cong and the Taliban winning wars spanning decades after getting pummelled non stop should be a warning to countries that depended its continued fighting from the good will of donations. Long war is not in your interest.

In both cases, the local allies of the US were not very interested in fighting. The American troops had to do the fighting themselves, so it is logical for the public back home to get tired of this. In Ukraine, the situation is totally different. The Ukrainians are motivated to fight, because they defend their land from an invsion.

If anything a hybrid low-high intensity conflict could be used by Russia the way the Taliban and Viet Cong scrape U.S will to go to war through the years. But unlike the Taliban and Viet Cong. Russia's war in Ukraine has the backing of advanced industrial country and possibly a safe heaven more safe than Pakistan will ever be to the Taliban or North Viet Nam will be to the Viet Cong.

The problem of Russia in this case is that it’s fighting against a more motivated enemy. In this case, Ukrainians are the Taliban, those willing to fight for as long as it takes to retake their land. Russians are fighting a meaningless invasion war, while Ukrainians defend their country. The motivation is totally different for the two sides.

While the Russian propaganda tries to portray this war as being between Russia and the West, the reality is that this is a war between Russia and Ukraine. The West is only helping Ukraine with money, weapons, ammunition and intelligence.

For the US, the cost of this war is tiny. If the Russian strategy is to outlast the US support for Ukraine, they are making just another big mistake. For the US economy, the cost of this war is like a drop in a bucket.
 
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