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Much respect to Ukrainian troops. I think most people would have surrendered.

a friend of mine said "They aren't like syrians" I think it's absolutely true

You mean Syrian Arabs and Syrian Kurds.

Syrian Turkmens fought like lions against Assad and the Russians in the Turkmen dagi. Despite alll the odds.
 

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This is a warning to us.

If the Russians are not stopped what makes you think they wont come to your lands?
 

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They killed our soldiers without any mercy then they bombed the ambulances also denied helicopters to rescue our soldiers.

Even if the Ukrainians kill 1 Russian I consider it a good day.

I hope to see tb2 footage of roasted Russians.
They killed our soldiers so we can hold a grudge forever? So naive, like a child. The economic and geopolitical benefits from getting along saves many more lives than those that have been lost. There have been and will be more times when confrontations happen and we don't want to waste our justice rights by offending with words.
 

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They killed our soldiers so we can hold a grudge forever. So naive, like a child. The economic and geopolitical benefits from getting along saves many more lives than those that have been lost. There have been and will be more times when confrontations happen and we don't want to waste our justice rights by offending with words.

Come to me when the Russians reach Turkish borders they already have by taking Crimea and building bases in Georgia and Syria.

You mean trading and cooperating I got no problem with that by the way but you also must realise that you should never be a push over or the Russian bear will eat you.

They killed Turkish soldiers you cant sweep this under the rug. Before 2020 in 2016 the Russians also "accidentally" bombed our soldiers.
 

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The Russians basically destroyed a few years of the Turkish defence industry with this war against Ukraine. Before domestic stuff are built and tested the Ukrainians were our stop gap solution eventough there is most likely a back up plan. Years has gone along with funding.

I hope you are happy.
 

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Come to me when the Russians reach Turkish borders they already have by taking Crimea and building bases in Georgia and Syria.

You mean trading and cooperating I got no problem with that by the way but you also must realise that you should never be a push over or the Russian bear will eat you.

They killed Turkish soldiers you cant sweep this under the rug. Before 2020 in 2016 the Russians also "accidentally" bombed our soldiers.
Americans killed our sailors and wrecked our ship, what did you do?
 

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They killed our soldiers so we can hold a grudge forever? So naive, like a child. The economic and geopolitical benefits from getting along saves many more lives than those that have been lost. There have been and will be more times when confrontations happen and we don't want to waste our justice rights by offending with words.
Yes you should hold a grudge until they pay compensation or formally apologise

You really need to understand why humans form towns, cities, and countries! It isnt just to communicate..... it is to have what is known as a HOME! It is to have ppl who can always have your back in times of need..... it is so that when times gets rough, you can always have a place to sit and relax along with your friends, family and kids..... it is a place where you can be safe.....if we just threw this shit out of the window for termporary gains, then such ppl and country have no dignity

When a foreign entity harms the children of a country, and such country forgets about the grudge, then such a country will be destroyed sooner or later!

Just look at the West, they until now, hates you turks for your achievements during your imperial periods; whether it was the Ottomans or the Seljuks etc..... till this day, they are afraid of a new uprising headed by you turks, till this day they dont like how Ataturk destroyed thier plans of annihilating the turks..... just look at how Germany or France treats the PKK and Turkey differently even though Turkey actually does provide support to them while the PKK just sucks from them.... just look at how the West is agitated by your achievements in the defence industry despite the ongoing embargoes! Hell! Frace even supported its archenemy Russia just to stop Turkey in Libya

If the West can hold a grudge for more than hundreds of years, then so should the turks, PERIOD!

The Turks lives arent any less important than those of the West or Russia. In fact, they may be evn more important as they dont go destroying countries and killing childrens and ravaging hospitals

I always would be sad when I see turks shitting on their heritage; I mean the Chinese, Greeks, Japanese, amd Russians all wanted to retrieve their legacies even though it fell; thus, I will say it and will always will...... the turks should be proud of their history and achievements..... They should always be proud of their heritage and the several marks they left upon civilisations...... You guys must reach the level that your ancestors reached and even surpass them..... for once, do learn this trait from that a**hole Vladimir Putin
 
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The Russians basically destroyed a few years of the Turkish defence industry with this war against Ukraine. Before domestic stuff are built and tested the Ukrainians were our stop gap solution eventough there is most likely a back up plan. Years has gone along with funding.

I hope you are happy.
Turkey is more than capable of making what Ukraine could offer to us. We have just been taking shortcuts by resorting to their available products. We have also made arrangements to produce their products in Türkiye which can happen just by transfer of some blueprints and several of their engineers to assist with understanding the plans. We are not at loss there either.

This is another push for us to make everything our own rather than relying on someone else. We have been relaxing by relying on imports while we can push our own development which was already annoying. Now we have to pull our strength together and roll up our sleeves to cover up more of our bases.
 

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@Zafer

The Russians basically destroyed a few years of the Turkish defence industry with this war against Ukraine. Before domestic stuff are built and tested the Ukrainians were our stop gap solution eventough there is most likely a back up plan. Years has gone along with funding.

I hope you are happy.
We really need to get those Ukranian engineers back to Turkey somehow

I really hope that the A400M of the TSK in Ukraine is still waiting for such scientists and engineers to come to Turkey as Russia may find it a bjt difficult to hit those TSK planes

Again, I may be daydreaming though^^^
 

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Yes you should hold a grudge until they pay compensation or formally apologise

You really need to understand why humans form towns, cities, and countries! It isnt just to communicate..... it is to have what is known as a HOME! It is to have ppl who can always have your back in times of need..... it is so that when times gets rough, you can always have a place to sit and relax along with your friends, family and kids..... it is a place where you can be safe.....if we just threw this shit out of the window for termporary gains, then such ppl and country have no dignity

When a foreign entity harms the children of a country, and such country forgets about the grudge, then such a country will be destroyed sooner or later!

Just look at the West, they until now, hates you turks for your achievements during your imperial periods; whether it was the Ottomans or the Seljuks etc..... till this day, they are afraid of a new uprising headed by you turks, till this day they dont like how Ataturk destroyed thier plans of annihilating the turks..... just look at how Germany or France treats the PKK and Turkey differently even though Turkey actually does provide support to them while the PKK just sucks from them.... just look at how the West is agitated by your achievements in the defence industry despite the ongoing embargoes! Hell! Frace even supported its archenemy Russia just to stop Turkey in Libya

If the West can hold a grudge for more than hundreds of years, then so should the turks, PERIOD!

The Turks lives arent any less important than those of the West or Russia. In fact, they may be evn more important as they dont go destroying countries and killing childrens and ravaging hospitals

I always would be sad when I see turks shitting on their heritage; I mean the Chinese, Greeks, Japanese, amd Russians all wanted to retrieve their legacies even though it fell; thus, I will say it and will always will...... the turks should be proud of their history and achievements..... They should always be proud of their heritage and the several marks they left upon civilisations...... You guys must reach the level that your ancestors reached and even surpass them..... for once, do learn this trait from that a**hole Vladimir Putin
They are not holding a grudge for we were in their lands, they are pretending like holding a grudge because we are of a different religion and because we are close to Jerusalem where Jews made Christians guardians of. We are a small population compared to Europe and we practically do not threat Europe.
 

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They are not holding a grudge for we were in their lands, they are pretending like holding a grudge because we are of a different religion and because we are close to Jerusalem where Jews made Christians guardians of. We are a small population compared to Europe and we practically do not threat Europe.
They do hold a grudge for when you were in their lands, mate! A prime example of this is Greece; till this days, the greeks are salivating when they hear the words Izmir and Istanbul. They want it, they believe it is theirs, they believe that it is their heritage

Not just the greeks, even the Saudis are pissed at the Turks, lool. Before the current geopolitical problems, the Saudi royal family was destroying any decent Ottoman structure in Saudi Arabia while preserving the Extremely shitty, poorly built castles built by the former members of Saud, just so that they can tell to their ppl that the only ones who ever ruled this land is the Saudi Royal family!

Even the Egyptian military leaders in its early days, just when the republic was first formed, werent so keen of the Ottoman or British infrastructure or heritage within their territory
 
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