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Old Ottoman flag spotted in a pro Ukraine protest in London thats supposed to represent Turkiye.
 
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US has more to earn from Ukraine being invaded than protecting it.

Substantially increased arms spending from EU countries
Finland and Sweden wanting to join NATO
Intelligence showoff and restoring faith after Iraq war fake intelligence

They provided more support for PKK terrorists than Ukraine
 
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Our NATO allies ten times bigger threat to our existance than Russians , PKK's main sponsor is U.S and EU countries.Not the mention NATO's new bulwark is Greece they are ones given all kind of brand new goodies(Rafaelas , Apaches ,Fremms ,F-35s , Blok-70s ) and many American bases builded upon Turkish border while we are sanctioned to hell.When asked about U.S. declared those bases not builts againts Turkiye but againts Russia(as if) now its high time those bases fullfill their supposed anti-Russian goal.Go and be sad about Greeks not doing anything to confront Russians!

Not our problem period.We should just stay neutral and of course send some thoughs and prayers to Ukrain.
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The US won't suddenly stop funding the YPG/PKK or lift CAATSA sanctions without Turkey comprimising first.

If Turkey can show that it can be trusted and take the responsibility of directly helping Ukraine then it will become clear to all European nations and all members of NATO that Turkey is a key ally that deserves to return to the F-35 programme, the removal of sanctions and perhaps even greater trade (updating the FTA).

If the rapprochement with Israel works, I wouldn't be surprised to see Israel promoting the gas project with cooperation with Turkey. Especially at a time where Europe relies so heavily on Russian gas - I am sure diversification will be welcomed.

Further, if Turkey substantially helped, Ukraine may have allowed some form Turkish military or naval base to perhaps deter Russia from further aggression.
 
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You are right but I have raise this question after the first one in my post.
Pervez Musharaf didn't do well for Pakistan and Imran Khan decisions have saved Pakistani and Afghani from war again by denying Americans demand.
Now why should we not make good relations with Russia? ...or Why PM Imran Khan visit to Russia is worrying?
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Turkey is currently engaged in 3 proxies wars with Russia. Turkey could potentially end up in war with Russia tomorrow over syria, libya, azerbiajan, central asia and more immediately Ukraine. This wasn't the time for Pakistan to go to Putin. You are basically are allowing Russia to affront Turkey and at the same time to play you for fools.

Little history for the Muslims who want to suck on Russian dongs. The Russians committed genocide against the muslim population of Ukraine, before the Russians annexed ukraine 200 years ago it was a Tatar Muslim state known as the Crimean Khanate and had been Muslim for a thousand years, twice as long as Istanbul has been in Muslim hands today.

Russians were also responsible for committing countless genocides against the Muslim population in the Balkans as away to limit Turkish influence. The most recent incident being the forced expulsion of Muslim Bulgarians. They did such a number on bulgarians that they are not even aware that it was Turkic bulgers who created their state.

In Syria the russians have kept a shia fanatic dictator in assad, indiscriminately killing muslims day and night that 10 million people have fled to Turkey.

In Libya they are behind the Haftar terrorist.

The Russians are the primary supporters of the PKK communist terrorists, where they even have a diplomatic office open in Moscow.

The genocide the armenians committed against the Azeri people and the occupation was instigated and supported by Russia.

I could give a hundred more reasons for why its foolish for Turks and Muslims to side with Russia.

Let me ask you this question WHY SHOULDNT TURKEY HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH INDIA? The only reason we don't is because of our friendship with Pakistan. Otherwise India is worth far more to Turkey then Pakistan is.
 
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Zafer said:
They killed our soldiers so we can hold a grudge forever? So naive, like a child. The economic and geopolitical benefits from getting along saves many more lives than those that have been lost. There have been and will be more times when confrontations happen and we don't want to waste our justice rights by offending with words.
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They didnt just kill our troops they are siding with every single one of our enemies. Siding with Assad, Armenia, Haftar, etc. This islamist rot where Muslims have been conditioned to see their enemies as their friends.
 
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Bosanski Vojnik said:
Apparrently a Ukranian Mig 29 shot down a Russian SU-35

Final nail in coffin for SU 35 sales I guess?
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No proof. and oh btw Su-35 sales are already in the dustbin. Egypt and Indonesia has cancelled their order with no prospective buyer other than Russia in the future.
 
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The US won't suddenly stop funding the YPG/PKK or lift CAATSA sanctions without Turkey comprimising first.

If Turkey can show that it can be trusted
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Stop right there. You are arming communist terrorists against Turkey and had been doing it for many years before Turkey brought weapons from russia. That's why erdogan the fool brought the s400.He thought that if you side with my enemies ill do business with yours without realising that Russia is still an enemy of Turkey.

Let Turkey arm terrorists against the UK that leads to over 50k deaths, then when you say something against us ill say ah but when the UK can be trusted... This western arrogance is why fools end up thinking Russia is a better deal.

Anyway the writings on the wall, Turkey has and is going her own.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497170134095613955

Erdogan says NATO should have been more decisive on Ukraine “European countries are only giving advices to Ukraine. And it doesn’t serve anyone. NATO summit shouldn’t become a festival for condemnations or more advices. “

Erdogan says EU and NATO failed to act on Ukraine crisis, says they are only giving advice.

He makes it sound like the War is over and that Turkey is not part of NATO. As if he is setting precedent for closer relations with Russia and the East......
 
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GoatsMilk said:
every time you see them though its alhaumdillah this and mashallah that. But in reality its a nation of cucks, truth be told most Muslims have descended into such cultural disgrace.
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thanks for every single word... no pride left behind in most Muslim populations because of the felt need for assimilation - imagine Turks joining Armenia to fight Georgia or join Greece to fight Bulgaria... it's almost the same hahaha Chechens got raped for like 100 yrs and now they fighting Tatars and former Huns :).... disgrace
 
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the said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497170134095613955

Erdogan says NATO should have been more decisive on Ukraine “European countries are only giving advices to Ukraine. And it doesn’t serve anyone. NATO summit shouldn’t become a festival for condemnations or more advices. “

Erdogan says EU and NATO failed to act on Ukraine crisis, says they are only giving advice.

He makes it sound like the War is over and that Turkey is not part of NATO. As if he is setting precedent for closer relations with Russia and the East......
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Just sounds to me he's pointing out the obvious. You all dicked about and Ukraine suffered for it. Bojo talked lots of shit but in reality did nothing substantial and the UK was the most aggressive to do something.

Who can forget when the Turks downed a russian jet, all the media in england were showing Turks as the bad guys and running headlines of "kick Turkey out of NATO".
 
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