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video of it.
leopards and challengers got baptized, abrams has a good chance as well because tonnage on the challenger 2 suggests it is quite a heavily armored tank. Wonder what hit it.

supposed Armour protection.

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Its funny that just because UK or Germany or USA lose a few of their donated tanks you Russians claim victory as if Russia has not lost 2000+ tanks, including hundreds of the latest T-90Ms, T-90As, T-80BVM and T-72B3s

Western tanks don't have a magical force field around them, they can be taken out by the same systems that take out Russian tanks, the difference is, that the crew has higher chance of survival.
 

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Indonesia will surpass Russia's GDP (PPP) two years earlier due to the war in Ukraine. The Russian war in Ukraine actually lifted Indonesia's global importance, especially in regards to China.

We will be larger than Russia GDP (PPP) in 2026.


Meanwhile Indonesia’s labor force is growing, its commodity exports are booming, and its new capital is under construction. There is a reason why Xi Jinping reportedly tried so hard to bring Indonesia into the BRICS expansion this week. He knows very well where the future is heading: it’s to China’s south, not its north.

While Russia’s workforce ages and its education levels decline, Indonesia’s continue to improve as new workers enter the labor force with strong educational backgrounds and important skills, albeit at a slower rate than the two decades prior to COVID. A growing and more prosperous labor force has also provided a strong foundation for increases in Indonesian private consumption. This is particularly important for China as it searches for new consumer markets to absorb its exports. Although Russia may be an important export market for Chinese producers for the moment, as it rushes to fill the gaps left as western companies pull out, its long-term growth prospects are stagnant at best and more likely negative. The opposite is true for Indonesia, which is still mostly on track to achieve its goal of becoming a High-Income Country by 2045.

Indonesia can see its brighter economic future ahead and its refusal so far to join the BRICS expansion speaks to its own growing confidence—and was one of the most significant and overlooked developments of last week.

The data shows that Russia will increasingly need benefactors like China to prop up its economy while rising powers like Indonesia will have many more friends eager to do business across the islands.
 

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Its funny that just because UK or Germany or USA lose a few of their donated tanks you Russians claim victory as if Russia has not lost 2000+ tanks, including hundreds of the latest T-90Ms, T-90As, T-80BVM and T-72B3s
thats because using your imagination of made up russian tank numbers doesnt count to what the actual loss of armoured vehicles are. I lost count how many times Ukraine has used russian videos claiming they hit russian tanks when those were there own tanks getting destroyed. But we do know the losses of Ukraine's tanks is like 3 times the number of Russian tanks which makes sense based on their slow progress and how much equipment they have used these last 3 months which they claimed should have taken them a week.

MOSCOW, June 13 - RIA Novosti. Russia has lost 54 tanks in Ukraine, some of them are subject to restoration and repair, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.
During a meeting with war correspondents, the Russian leader noted that Ukraine lost 160 tanks and 360 armored vehicles during the counteroffensive, and this is only that Moscow sees - in fact, there are more such losses.


If the loss rate is continuously like this than that is not a problem.

Western tanks don't have a magical force field around them, they can be taken out by the same systems that take out Russian tanks, the difference is, that the crew has higher chance of survival.
Sadly we have people treat them as such including the soon to be Abrams and F-16s. I would also like to see the higher chance of survival part being true but I have doubts since Ukraine can't be supplied with more of such tanks including the 1000s of abrams collecting dust which could have been supplied to Ukraine any time during the war or before the war
 

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1st tweet of today.
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Dont you find it embarassing that Ukraine is on the offensive while Russia on the defence.

How the tables have turned there was literally daily news of Russian offensives now its constant news about Ukrainian offensives.

This is literally embarassing for Russia.

Ukraine has breached the first line of the Russian Surovikin line, the thing is, according to this post by Rob Lee, Russia commits most of its forces in its first defensive line not the 2nd and 3rd line, moving forward it will be easier for Ukraine to advance as Russia is exhausting most of its reserve in the first line trying to counter-attack.

 

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Dont you find it embarassing that Ukraine is on the offensive while Russia on the defence.

How the tables have turned there was literally daily news of Russian offensives now its constant news about Ukrainian offensives.

This is literally embarassing for Russia.
What's embarrassing about Ukraine losing 3 times the amount of equipment? Bakhmut was more heavily fortified, robotina is like a village with a few buildings. Assuming the 1st line of defense is fully breached I am sure the next cope from the west will be the other lines of defense will be easier with high doubts. I think the rainy season in Ukraine starts in a few weeks.
 

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How naive of Erdogan to be honest.

Russia aint gonna want peace neither will Ukraine be happy until Crimea and Donbass are returned.

Better off Russia getting weakened to open Turkiye's way into the Black sea, Caucasus and Central Asia.

I doubt the West will attack Turkiye any further as Turkiye position will only be strengthened.
 

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Rustem Umerov, an ethnic Crimean Tatar and Sunni Muslim, became the Minister of Defense of Ukraine. He was born in Uzbekistan, where Stalin forcibly deported his parents.
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About the previous Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov, Artie Green has questions regarding the fact that: 1) many drones were financed by voluntary donations from people, and not by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, 2) Ukraine depends on supplies from Western countries. Why didn’t the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine produce its own shells? 3) suspicions of corruption.

 

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