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The French company Turgis & Gaillard signed a contract with the Ukrainian "Antonov" on the joint production of a cheaper version of the Aarok MALE UAV, La Tribune.
 

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The Telegraph, citing senior British military chief:

Britain has run out of defence equipment to donate to Ukraine and other countries should step in and shoulder more of the burden. A senior military source told The Telegraph that the onus should not be on the UK to provide the “billions” Mr Wallace has called for. “Giving billions more doesn’t mean giving billions of British kit,” they said, adding that the UK had a role to play in “encouraging other nations to give more money and weapons”. “We’ve given away just about as much as we can afford,” they added. “We will continue to source equipment to provide for Ukraine, but what they need now is things like air defence assets and artillery ammunition and we’ve run dry on all that.”
 

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Footage of a Russian Mi-28 helicopter pursuing a Ukrainian UJ-22 Airborne UAV. The UJ-22 Airborne drone is produced by the Ukrainian company Ukrjet and reaches speeds of up to 160 km/h. As a result of a short air battle, the Ukrainian UJ-22 Airborne UAV was destroyed by a 30 mm 2A42 automatic cannon mounted on a Mi-28 helicopter.

 

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Footage of the combat work of the Russian Tunguska-M1 air defense missile system in Ukraine. Now there are very few videos with this complex. Reportedly, a 2K22M1 air defense missile system shot down a Ukrainian Fury UAV. The Fury UAV has a range of up to 50 km and reaches speeds of up to 130 km/h.

 

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As you know, one of the problems of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian army is the so-called defensive “Surovikin line” created by the Russian army. The line consists of engineering structures that go several tens of kilometers deep into the defense and are based on a developed transport and logistics network. These logistics routes allow the Russian army to quickly transfer reserves from one area to another. One of the important components of this line of defense are mines. One of the Ukrainian soldiers showed, one might say counted, what a colossal number of mines they encountered.

 

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Axios: The Biden administration is scrambling to try to assure U.S. allies that war aid to Ukraine will continue despite the growing number of Republicans in Congress who oppose it. Biden is scheduled to hold a conference call with the leaders of the G7 countries and several other European allies. One European diplomat said Biden's team is telling allies that it's working on an agreement with Congress to allow continued military aid to Ukraine.

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Whether the Russians win in Ukraine or not will be determined by the USA's financing of Ukraine. If the US stops providing support, then the Russians will have won the war of attrition against NATO.
And what is American promise worth ?

It took the Americans just a year from promising to replace South Vietnam material loss on a one-to-one basis in the Paris peace accord, only to withdraw once Nixon is out.

 

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And what is American promise worth ?

It took the Americans just a year from promising to replace South Vietnam material loss on a one-to-one basis in the Paris peace accord, only to withdraw once Nixon is out.

I think this situation will produce very remarkable results for Taiwan. Because its biggest support point has either lost or is about to lose almost every fight it has entered. This has now become a series.
 

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The Telegraph, citing senior British military chief:

Britain has run out of defence equipment to donate to Ukraine and other countries should step in and shoulder more of the burden. A senior military source told The Telegraph that the onus should not be on the UK to provide the “billions” Mr Wallace has called for. “Giving billions more doesn’t mean giving billions of British kit,” they said, adding that the UK had a role to play in “encouraging other nations to give more money and weapons”. “We’ve given away just about as much as we can afford,” they added. “We will continue to source equipment to provide for Ukraine, but what they need now is things like air defence assets and artillery ammunition and we’ve run dry on all that.”
Lack of air force. İf western countries had given fighters, Ukraine could use advantage of air force Instead of blindly bursting artillery rounds and rockets.
 

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Weekly reminder that USA 🇺🇸 still has $5.4 Billion usd in drawdown authority left from the last package. That's still plenty of military aid until new funding can be agreed upon.

Meanwhile, today the European Union 🇪🇺 announced a new $50 Billion euro ($54 Billion usd) macro financial package for Ukraine that will be divided between 2024-2027 in order to bolster the Ukrainian economy and help fund a much larger than usual military.

 

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New defense package from Germany 🇩🇪 has been announced.

- 14 Bandvagn 406 tracked all terrain vehicles
- 1 Beaver bridge laying system
- WISENT mine clearing vehicles
- 21 border protection vehicles
- 105mm Leopard 1 tank rounds
- 33,000 40mm rounds
- 99 Satcom terminals
- Additional logistics and communication equipment

 

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And what is American promise worth ?

It took the Americans just a year from promising to replace South Vietnam material loss on a one-to-one basis in the Paris peace accord, only to withdraw once Nixon is out.

With friends like that, who needs enemies?
 

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I think this situation will produce very remarkable results for Taiwan. Because its biggest support point has either lost or is about to lose almost every fight it has entered. This has now become a series.

Basically, if Russia could prove that a long war is to the detriment of the Americans, China's calculations would naturally adapt to the long-held perception that America would eventually lose appetite. China wins when it comes to population, production, and industry and it's naive to think that the CCP will collapse just because they lose one engagement in the Taiwan Strait.

There's a long-held belief that all America needs to do in a Taiwan contingency is to defeat the PLAN at sea and wait for the CCP to implode due to internal dissatisfaction. But if Russia demonstrates that it can win a protracted war, then naturally China's confidence will multiply because, unlike Russia, China actually has a larger industry than the Americans.

In short China's war plan could adapt from a short sharp war with the Americans, to basically prep up the entire nation to exhaust the Americans trying to prevent Taiwan from drowning.
 

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Basically, if Russia could prove that a long war is to the detriment of the Americans, China's calculations would naturally adapt to the long-held perception that America would eventually lose appetite. China wins when it comes to population, production, and industry and it's naive to think that the CCP will collapse just because they lose one engagement in the Taiwan Strait.

There's a long-held belief that all America needs to do in a Taiwan contingency is to defeat the PLAN at sea and wait for the CCP to implode due to internal dissatisfaction. But if Russia demonstrates that it can win a protracted war, then naturally China's confidence will multiply because, unlike Russia, China actually has a larger industry than the Americans.

In short China's war plan could adapt from a short sharp war with the Americans, to basically prep up the entire nation to exhaust the Americans trying to prevent Taiwan from drowning.
China has a much larger industry than Russia. On the one hand, this requires large resources coming from outside - from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Africa. If the Americans sink the Chinese merchant fleet, it could lead to a significant setback or halt to trade in the South China Sea. A billion Chinese will be thrown onto the streets without work, and this will lead to a riot. The army will rebel without wages and food.

People from Russia are accustomed to living without industry; they can make a living by growing vegetables in their gardens. Russia's trade routes go mainly overland to Western Europe. Despite the sanctions, Western Europe has increased purchases of Russian gas and oil. The underwater strike on Nord Stream in the spring of 2022 did not significantly affect trade with Europe. It is interesting that part of the pipeline goes through Ukraine, and Ukraine is not even trying to blow up these gas pipelines running from Russia to Europe.
 

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. A billion Chinese will be thrown onto the streets without work, and this will lead to a riot. The army will rebel without wages and food.

That's a billion Chinese ready to be drafted into the army, which in turn will kickstart an entire industry trying to feed, clothe, and arm them. Which in turn kickstarts an entirely new job market.

The West has grown accustomed to this kind of oversimplistic thought. Tell me which sanctions in the last 3 decades worked as intended ? In Russia, the war basically prevented the dying Russian heavy industry to closure, in Ukraine dying enterprises suddenly found new jobs designing and assembling drones etc.

It's not that simple when it comes to a war economy.
 

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China has a much larger industry than Russia. On the one hand, this requires large resources coming from outside - from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Africa. If the Americans sink the Chinese merchant fleet, it could lead to a significant setback or halt to trade in the South China Sea. A billion Chinese will be thrown onto the streets without work, and this will lead to a riot. The army will rebel without wages and food.

People from Russia are accustomed to living without industry; they can make a living by growing vegetables in their gardens. Russia's trade routes go mainly overland to Western Europe. Despite the sanctions, Western Europe has increased purchases of Russian gas and oil. The underwater strike on Nord Stream in the spring of 2022 did not significantly affect trade with Europe. It is interesting that part of the pipeline goes through Ukraine, and Ukraine is not even trying to blow up these gas pipelines running from Russia to Europe.
China has a huge domestic consumption based market, they will struggle much less than russians in a war situation i believe.
 

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That's a billion Chinese ready to be drafted into the army, which in turn will kickstart an entire industry trying to feed, clothe, and arm them. Which in turn kickstarts an entirely new job market.

The West has grown accustomed to this kind of oversimplistic thought. Tell me which sanctions in the last 3 decades worked as intended ? In Russia, the war basically prevented the dying Russian heavy industry to closure, in Ukraine dying enterprises suddenly found new jobs designing and assembling drones etc.

It's not that simple when it comes to a war economy.

Bro, you are underestimating what a US naval blockade could do? Nothing would be in or out. and contemporary US Navy is 100% capable to do that.

If they simply cannot import Raw materials and minerals, there won’t be any industry left. And nor that will kick start anything new.
 
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Lack of air force. İf western countries had given fighters, Ukraine could use advantage of air force Instead of blindly bursting artillery rounds and rockets.
Something tells me it's deliberate, or following US directions.
If Ukraine had had fighters and sophisticated AD systems when the invasion was still fresh, it would've probably ended a lot sooner which the West clearly doesn't want.
 
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