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AWP said:
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Ramzan Kadyrov hate turkey to the bone , long time ago he wanted to send his army to north syria to ( teach the turkish army a lesson ) . putin refused kadyrov request fearing that erdogan will support and arm and Chechen resistance in russia .
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Russian invasions and genocides have led to many Turkic peoples and Caucasian peoples to come to Turkiye as refugees.

Millions have been uprooted by the Russians.

Thats why the Russians are much worse than the Americans. Americans no doubt killed and invaded many Muslim countries but the Russians uprooted and killed many both Tsarist and Soviet times also caused the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

Many so called Muslims shilling for Russia dont realise this because they are fixated on the West.

Also many Muslims were sent to gulags by Stalin.
 
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Turkiye has always been a safe haven for refugees.

But these refugees crisis were caused by Russia.

You know why the Russians knew that the transfer of millions of people were going to weaken their enemies ability to fight and continue a war.

Not only you are going to feed your soldiers you have to feed and settle refugees.

Sultan Abdulhamid I actually passed away when he heard about the Turkish people were slaughtered by the invading Russian army in a city in Crimea I think. He got paralysed and died from a broken heart.
 
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Everbody knows how much of an anti erdogan person i am but truth to be told he helped Ukraine more than most of europe did.
Kudos to countries such as Poland too, may the brave people of Ukraine preserve their independece from Russian tyranny.
 
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Everbody knows how much of an anti erdogan person i am but truth to be told he helped Ukraine more than most of europe did.
Kudos to countries such as Poland too, may the brave people of Ukraine preserve their independece from Russian tyranny.
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In truth, Turkish - Ukrainian relations really took off after Russian 2015 Su-24 shootdown by Turkish F-16.

We benefitted immensely from this, and all we did was sell some TB2s in exchange. To call it "help" is a bit of a stretch

Even now Poland is sending ammo and supply convoys. What is Turkey doing? as far as I can tell, nothing.
 
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LegionnairE said:
In truth, Turkish - Ukrainian relations really took off after 2015 Su-24 shootdown by Turkish F-16.

We benefitted immensely from this, and all we did was sell some TB2s in exchange. To call it "help" is a bit of a stretch
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By that definition nobody is helping anybody, everyone is looking for interest.
But in the end of the day you look whos interest is helping you and that alone is help too.
If you get weapons in a dire situation do you decide not to use them just because it was provided out of interest or do you say thanks and take it as it is?

It is what it is, most of west threw Ukraine under the bus, only a few are standing up for them.
 
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