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At least be consistent in your posturing , you call someone Nazi yet few paragraphs ago you were spouting anti Jewish rhetoric. Please spear us of your morbid fantasies and usual Christian Ortodox paranoia. Also there are a plenty Gypos left for you to enjoy as Bulgarians are mixed mongerels you will need them to keep you in your natural complexion.
I am calling out some bad Jewish elements, that doesn not make me Nazi. You sound like Western censors on Facebook...make no sense and always see the world as black and white. Maybe take a look at how many bad Jewish elements exist in US State Department first and how many Neocons are as well. Then judge their actions. I think you might learn a few things.
 

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Anyone else find it amusing how the international media always make sure to say that "this is all Putin's fault but Russians are totally innocent and they hate all of this violence and bloodshed"? I keep seeing it everywhere on the news, how "great Russia" is being led astray by the "evil Putin" and this is happening because of him and totally not because most of Russia's population are neo-imperialistic assholes who believe that ex-Soviet nations need to be back under Mother Russia's loving care while the churkas from the non-European ex-Soviet states couldn't wipe their own ass without Russian guidance.

Aside from the fact that this is nonsense and going on any Russian website/social media or even seeing our very own blackjack on this forum you will notice that Russians support this crap basically 100% save for like 1 protest in St. Petersburg by the same minority crowd that went out for every other "democratic protest" in Russia in the past decade, isn't it interesting how neither Turkey nor Azerbaijan were afforded the same courtesy? We're not "good people with a proud history" led astray by the evil Erdogan and Aliyev, we're just straight-up nations of bloodthirsty savages from birth.

I support Ukraine but this hypocrisy just...I don't know. I'm not sure I even have enough rage for it, just sadness.

Its because the european christian world was run by inter-related germanic aristocracy. Turkey, Azerbaijan and Turks are outside of this circle jerk. So germanic kings murdering each other is quite normal, but the moment an outsider enters that fight they take a united position against the outsider. Its like two brothers will fight, but when someone outside of it comes into the fight the brothers will join forces.

A good recent example is in Syria, both the USA and Russia aligned their movements together against Turkey. When the Turks shot the Russain jet down the "west" turned against Turkey. Only whites are allowed to win in this west vs east conflict, no one from outside is meant to challenge it, if they do prior enemies become best friends.

Even in the recent Karabagh liberation, the western media was portraying russias military armenia as the good guy.
 

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The air force still in the fight

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Anyone else find it amusing how the international media always make sure to say that "this is all Putin's fault but Russians are totally innocent and they hate all of this violence and bloodshed"? I keep seeing it everywhere on the news, how "great Russia" is being led astray by the "evil Putin" and this is happening because of him and totally not because most of Russia's population are neo-imperialistic assholes who believe that ex-Soviet nations need to be back under Mother Russia's loving care while the churkas from the non-European ex-Soviet states couldn't wipe their own ass without Russian guidance.

Aside from the fact that this is nonsense and going on any Russian website/social media or even seeing our very own blackjack on this forum you will notice that Russians support this crap basically 100% save for like 1 protest in St. Petersburg by the same minority crowd that went out for every other "democratic protest" in Russia in the past decade, isn't it interesting how neither Turkey nor Azerbaijan were afforded the same courtesy? We're not "good people with a proud history" led astray by the evil Erdogan and Aliyev, we're just straight-up nations of bloodthirsty savages from birth.

I support Ukraine but this hypocrisy just...I don't know. I'm not sure I even have enough rage for it, just sadness.
You know the same thing can be said of Americans. They love watching their wars against third world countries live on TV like some entertainment. And this is American culture for you, they glorify violence and enjoy beating down countries. Their political system is based on it. The problem for them is that they are now in reteat. Afghan freedom fighters beat them with sandals and no air force! NATO retreated from Ukraine. From Hond Kong. The world is getting sick of them
 

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I am calling out some bad Jewish elements, that doesn not make me Nazi. You sound like Western censors on Facebook...make no sense and always see the world as black and white. Maybe take a look at how many bad Jewish elements exist in US State Department first and how many Neocons are as well. Then judge their actions. I think you might learn a few things.
Don't talk rubbish and give me your shallow analysis. All it is your jealousy on Anglo Saxons. For all their faults they always made a lot of useful things and contribute a lot to this world socially, intellectually, technologically etc. What have you ever contributed? Russia is country of 17 million sq km , all resources and economy smaller than Spain. Poor and powerless sumped without impunity, history filled with endless primitive massacres. Filth cities with alcoholics , depressive and ugly. It was like that always. I wonder are you all suffering from massive psychosis ? Do you ever have any realistic picture of yourself? Ever ? Be great full fir a second that you have some decent life now due to the West. I remember when I travelled to your country in 80s and what misery it was , how your shill counted number of the sweets on my plate I remember Zhivkov and terror on Turkish people and I know once upon time Muslims were the majority in your country till you eliminated them in the mist brutal way. Do you think that you can lecture any one here . There is no bone of decency in you
 

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Don't talk rubbish and give me your shallow analysis. All it is your jealousy on Anglo Saxons. For all their faults they always made a lot of useful things and contribute a lot to this world socially, intellectually, technologically etc. What have you ever contributed? Russia is country of 17 million sq km , all resources and economy smaller than Spain. Poor and powerless sumped without impunity, history filled with endless primitive massacres. Filth cities with alcoholics , depressive and ugly. It was like that always. I wonder are you all suffering from massive psychosis ? Do you ever have any realistic picture of yourself? Ever ? Be great full fir a second that you have some decent life now due to the West. I remember when I travelled to your country in 80s and what misery it was , how your shill counted number of the sweets on my plate I remember Zhivkov and terror on Turkish people and I know once upon time Muslims were the majority in your country till you eliminated them in the mist brutal way. Do you think that you can lecture any one here . There is no bone of decency in you


 

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I dont agree with this man.

Suicide tactics is counterproductive. I respect him for giving the ultimate sacrifice but still dont agree with it.

Always remember to fight another day rather than just killing yourself.

It depends....sometimes the action merits a suicide. If you think about it a lot of operations in military combat involve some element of suicide when push comes to shove, you know you gotta make that decision to help the other brothers out.
 

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Do you like Nazi in Ukraine? Why you support these animals. They are the children of UK, US, Israel and Turkey....trained to dehumanize people. What a shame that the West did the same to Suria with so many Wahhabi fanatiks doing same work as Azov Nazis. NATO is terrorist organization, it has to be tried for war crimes and dissolved. They did this to Suria over a pipeline that Suria rejected. Thsi is why Qatar and Turkey were involved in Suria. This stuff in Ukraine is also about pipelines.

By the way, many Gypsies from Bulgaria ran to England and Germany :ROFLMAO: Enjoy!
And you propose China as the liberators? A country that has territorial dispute with endless number of the countries. Keeping concentration camps for the millions of Uygurs ? Which since 1949 has no original thought? Where Beijing Wenker proudly announces here the opening toilet in his local park, a number get number for posting the numbers . Orwellian totalitarian, unnecessary cruel minds who have no semblance of their own history . Country of abstract patriotism, a bit nazi a bit fascist a bit Communist a bit Socialists a bit of everything apart what it was.
And as of your theories of conspiracies, well you just use it to justify to yourself and others your claim for yourself . I know full well what is Jacobin Cult and how it came about and its purpose at end of the day , they insomuch openly said it, Lous Blanc , Sorrel etc. Observed by Barrauel , Webster and others and in difference to your ravings it is incredibly well referenced , documented and presented.
 

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furthermore; turkey faced Russia the most in its history - any war accrued til now, Russia was part of the enemy - even if it was just by supplying the enemy ... but what did Europe do? other than pushing Ukraine into a devastating war?

This is what many russian simps cringely deflect around each and every time.

They just dont understand one bit the Tsarist psyche that drives Russian political class in the end.

Of course everyone else is going to have issues of being consistent + principled in support to Turkey or whomever else....but that will always pale in comparison to the larger context of Turkey - Russia experience (on real blood and lives in the end).

That one has to stand alone in its special significance and must always be factored in, rather than dismissed and forgotten for whatever lesser realism.

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Let me also say that Turkey sorely needs another like Ataturk to take charge again....its been 100 years, its due again.
 

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We lost so many wars to Russia.

But the Crimean Turks under Ottoman support burnt moscow and in the late 1600s the Ottomans repelled Russian attacks on Crimea. In the 1500s and 1600s the Ottomans contained Russian ambitions in the black sea and the cauacsus until we reached the 1700s where the Ottomans began to weaken while Russia was the new rising star.

In 1878 they were like a few kms off Istanbul the Russian invaders this was before even Ataturk was born.
 

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Time in Kyiv now is 4:15 am .. let's see what will happen in the next 2 hours
 

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