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❗️A massive attack by the Russian Federation on Ukraine today: the consequences of the Shahed attack and rockets.
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▪️ Kyiv region. the Russians attacked a critical infrastructure facility. Fire. Power outages;
▪️Kharkiv region. A minimum of 10 hits on critical infrastructure. Power outages. The subway is not working;
▪️ Lviv region. A powerful attack on Stryi from three sides. A critical infrastructure object was attacked;
▪️ Zaporizhzhia region. A critical infrastructure object was attacked;
▪️ Odessa. A fire at an energy facility due to falling debris from drones;
▪️There were also explosions in Rivne Oblast, Mykolaiv Oblast, Kherson Oblast, Cherkasy Oblast, Khmelnytskyi Oblast, Dnipro Oblast and Chernivtsi Oblast.
 

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There use to be a time when democracies flaunt that they will turn non-democracies into the stone age. Now autocracies are doing the same to democracies.

Ps: democracies here meaning official status, we know Ukraine is not a real democracy becuz they don't even allow for elections.

 

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Like I said before, absorbing Ukraine will pay for the loss of Russian manpower. Ukraine will be the future bread basket and conscription pool of the restored Russian empire.

What Russia is doing in Mariupol and other occupied territories in the South and East of Ukraine cannot ba replicated in the rest of Ukraine, because the population is very different. In Mariupol, a lot of the local population was pro-Russia, so they can be trained and enlisted to fight for Russia.

But in a city like Kyiv, even if the Russians would manage to take it, the population would be rebelious and impossible to use in the army. It is like saying that Israel could enlarge its army by conquering Gaza and enlisting Palestinians.
 

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What Russia is doing in Mariupol and other occupied territories in the South and East of Ukraine cannot ba replicated in the rest of Ukraine, because the population is very different. In Mariupol, a lot of the local population was pro-Russia, so they can be trained and enlisted to fight for Russia.

But in a city like Kyiv, even if the Russians would manage to take it, the population would be rebelious and impossible to use in the army. It is like saying that Israel could enlarge its army by conquering Gaza and enlisting Palestinians.

Actually I've noted this when I said that Russia should not go with its Maximalist claim to capture all of Ukraine, this is why I previously wrote here that Russia should leave non-Russian areas likeTrans Carpathia, Lviv and Kyiv to either Poland, Hungary or Romania (aren't you happy?) becuase that will be trouble.

But the likes of Zaporizhia, Kharkiv and Odessa is good to go.
 

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🇸🇰Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico, who had said "Ukraine 🇺🇦was not ready for membership in the European Union, just said that "Bratislava now supports the country's European integration."😅👌🏻

At a joint press conference with Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmygal, he noted that "Slovakia wants to be a good and friendly neighbor, and joining the EU for Ukraine is a guarantee for prospects and peaceful development."

“This is not speculation. This is absolute, complete support... We are not a country that will create obstacles in your path. On the contrary, we want to help, provide you with our experience. Slovakia wishes Ukraine to quickly become a member of the European Union... We keep our fingers crossed for you," Fico said.
 

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From what I understand, either Ukrainians are swamp Russians or Russians are mountain Ukrainians. Either way, because the gap is so wide now, Russia should avoid getting entangled in messy guerilla warfare in non Russian areas. So please don't go all the way to Lviv 🙏
 

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I previously wrote here that Russia should leave non-Russian areas likeTrans Carpathia, Lviv and Kyiv to either Poland, Hungary or Romania (aren't you happy?) becuase that will be trouble.

My country doesn’t want any territory from Ukraine. We are happy to live within our borders, and we want good relations with our neighbors. Only Russia and Hungary are still dreaming about their old empires. Don’t put Poland and Romania in the same group, as we are much more civilized than that.
 

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My country doesn’t want any territory from Ukraine. We are happy to live within our borders, and we want good relations with our neighbors. Only Russia and Hungary are still dreaming about their old empires. Don’t put Poland and Romania in the same group, as we are much more civilized than that.
Fair enough. I'll no longer put Romania in the list of future profiteers of the Ukraine war.

As for Poland, I wanna hear it from poles themselves that they don't want Lvov to come back to the motherland
 
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Fair enough. I'll no longer put Romania in the list of future profiteers of the Ukraine war.

As for Poland, I wanna hear it from poles themselves that they don't want Look to come back to the motherland
Edit :Lvov
 

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Actually I've noted this when I said that Russia should not go with its Maximalist claim to capture all of Ukraine, this is why I previously wrote here that Russia should leave non-Russian areas likeTrans Carpathia, Lviv and Kyiv to either Poland, Hungary or Romania (aren't you happy?) becuase that will be trouble.

But the likes of Zaporizhia, Kharkiv and Odessa is good to go.
Sir, you are again forgetting about Turkiye. I start to think that this is not a mistake from your side, but a conscious decision :(

All right, lets not be maximalist, we don't want the whole of Crimea! Can we at least get the half of it? Like, please? Sir? 🙄
 

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Sir, you are again forgetting about Turkiye. I start to think that this is not a mistake from your side, but a conscious decision :(

All right, lets not be maximalist, we don't want the whole of Crimea! Can we at least get the half of it? Like, please? Sir? 🙄

Mate, many of my posts are being removed because they're either too harsh or too bizarre, people thinks I'm trolling when I'm not.

If I'm you the Turks, the moment Russia lands in Zaporozhia, I would declare war on Ukraine and seize Odessa, this is not a joke. From there capture whatever settlements that exists on the right bank of the Dnieper river including the likes of Mykolaiv. And then declare that this once was a Turkish land that somehow lost during the decline of Ottomans. That way you can check the Russians if they get cocky in the Black sea by placing a significant A2AD assets.

But would you ?
 

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