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The Ukrainian 🇺🇦 domestic fundraisers to support their troops continue. The people of Lviv have banded together to raise money for drones and related to equipment for transfer to the UAF. Here is what they bought...

- 1515 FPV kamikaze drones
- 17 Mavic 3T recon drones
- 5 Furia recon drones
- 20 EcoFlow power stations

 

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Maybe he should ask his people for their air defenses since the results given of the western ones in this war
 

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The USA 🇺🇸 House of Representatives will vote on a foreign aid bill for Ukraine this week. The details of the bill are the same as the $60 Billion usd bill that was passed in the Senate, with two caveats.

1. The portion of the aid bill that consists of macro financial aid will be in the form of a forgivable loan to Ukraine. The weapons portion of the bill will still be a "gift".

2. A "watchdog" agency in the United States will seek to ensure that no percentage of the aid given to Ukraine ends up being used corruptly.

3. A bill will be introduced to confiscate the assets of Russian oligarchs that have been frozen in American banks. Those proceeds will help fund the bill. Therefore, Russian money will be used to kill their own people.

You heard it here first. In the next 10'ish days, Ukraine will receive it's largest ever aid package, which will translate to billions of dollars worth weapons for Ukraine each month from the United States. It took a while, but the bill I promised would pass, is going to pass.

I hope my country follows suit and ratchets up aid. One can only hope that the procurement of millions of artillery shells and mortar shells, hundreds of thousands of drones and fresh batches of Western armor and artillery, will ensure the deaths and maming of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men! May my tax money be used well :)


 
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Interesting how they easily send Israel money and aid without a bill being passed.

While Ukraine has to jump through hoops to get what it wants.
 

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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".- Einstein

Beg for billions, round up the bodies and the equipment, push Russians back, another offensive loses its momentum like making claims it will take them to Crimea, Russians slowly take back land, Ukraine lowers the military age mobilization. Rince, eat, repeat. “ is what this entire thread has been like.
1st the bill has to pass since recent news articles are saying the congressmen are a little more hesitant with passing bills because of that Israel fiasco with Iran and Israel's defense officials openly talked about striking Iran again (the SAM missiles Israel fired isn't cheap) which make more back and forth shit happen with Iran and Israel. Then there is going to be the problem of trying to hide a large convoy of military equipment and ammunition being delivered to Ukraine after they recently bragged about their satellite's resolution and all the locations they have been striking the past 3 weeks from 30 howitzers, bridges, power stations, drone and ammunition storages getting destroyed.

Funding Ukraine is like funding Haiti at this point, any time they get close to solving their problems, a cataclysmic event sends them back to ground zero. If there’s not a civil war, then there’s gang violence. If there’s not a hurricane destroying all of their infrastructure, then it’s an earthquake, if it's not an earthquake than its people cannibalizing each other being ruled by some dude named Barbecue.
 

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Then there is going to be the problem of trying to hide a large convoy of military equipment and ammunition being delivered to Ukraine after they recently bragged about their satellite's resolution and all the locations they have been striking the past 3 weeks from 30 howitzers, bridges, power stations, drone and ammunition storages getting destroyed.

I think the window of opportunity where Ukraine could repeat last year's offensive had passed. Due to increased Russian ISR, the recent orbiting of decent spy satellites, the exhaustion of missile defense, the introduction of accurate and long range UMPK etc I see Ukraine could no longer concentrate troops in embarking points the way they did in 2023.

They will be forced to disperse troops away from one another and coordinating counter offensive will be much more difficult.
 

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Interesting how they easily send Israel money and aid without a bill being passed.

While Ukraine has to jump through hoops to get what it wants.
The Americans sent plenty of aid to Ukraine without passing supplemental aid. Biden maxed out nearly every mechanism he had that didn't require funding from Congress. That even went so far as to include sending "excess defense articles" to allies, in exchange for those allies sending weapons to Ukraine.

Additional aid will pass in the next 7 to 10 days...14'ish Billion usd for Israel 🇮🇱 and $60'ish Billion usd for Ukraine 🇺🇦.
 

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The Americans sent plenty of aid to Ukraine without passing supplemental aid. Biden maxed out nearly every mechanism he had that didn't require funding from Congress. That even went so far as to include sending "excess defense articles" to allies, in exchange for those allies sending weapons to Ukraine.

Additional aid will pass in the next 7 to 10 days...14'ish Billion usd for Israel 🇮🇱 and $60'ish Billion usd for Ukraine 🇺🇦.

14 billion should go to Ukraine not to Israel.

Israel can afford its own shit.
 

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14 billion should go to Ukraine not to Israel.

Israel can afford its own shit.
$60 Billion will go to Ukraine 🇺🇦. $14 Billion will go to Israel 🇮🇱 to help them maintain their balance of power in the region.

We're only a few years away from a Saudi / Jordanian / Israeli, Suni-Jewish working relationship that will further create a balance of power in the region vs Shia opposition. It's extremely smart for the U.S. to give small sums of money (by their standards) to ensure that becomes the case.
 

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