Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

Nilgiri

Experienced member
Moderator
Aviation Specialist
Messages
9,328
Reactions
96 18,913
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India

Its not for me to tell to you the hypocrisies shown by West to 🇹🇷 ...several grave ones included.

This combined with larger hypocrisy of West trusting + building up Russia so much (knowing full well the level of popularity that such a one as Stalin enjoys there still)....especially in last 8 years AFTER crimea got munched .....means this is front and centre their problem they created and now have to confront + prove themselves going forward.

Shaming other parties to pressure them to join the bandwagon (for problem of theirs that they did most to expand past what it could/should be)....especially when west never went for same bandwagons other parties expected of them (on same principle of problems/issues closer to those parties)....will simply not be tolerated.

Lithuania sanctioning Bangladesh on somehting like covid vaccines......while it remains quite mute on the "loophole" weapon transfers 3 major western countries did all this time to Russia.....says more than enough as it is.

🇹🇷 will have to maneuver very diligently in the current and future geopolitical environments to its best ability and cognition. Just like every other country that have put some distance (at cost) with the West on many matters for a reason.
 

Nilgiri

Experienced member
Moderator
Aviation Specialist
Messages
9,328
Reactions
96 18,913
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India
The sanctions are hurting in various ways directly even:

 

Vergennes

Experienced member
Moderator
Professional
France Moderator
Messages
1,522
Reactions
5,978
Nation of residence
France
Nation of origin
France
Nothing much remains of that Russian BTR82A!

FOukXnTXIAY6WPE.jpg
 

HTurk

Contributor
Messages
576
Reactions
1 1,203
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
Dmitry Medvedev just announced the death of the unipolar world order and clarified Russia's conditions for nuclear weapons use. Some details and context /1

Medvedev claimed Russia's war with Ukraine had killed the unipolar order, and hailed the strength of the emerging Russia-China-India bloc

This decision mirrored his rhetoric as president during the 2008 Georgian War, which he viewed as a step towards multipolarity /2

Medvedev also decried Russia-West tensions as worse than the Cold War

Medvedev noted that the US did not try to impose individual sanctions on Soviet leaders, such as Leonid Brezhnev, and that avenues for dialogue were even more narrow /3

Despite this, Medvedev appeared to decry Russia's expulsion from Europe, claiming that anti-Russian EU countries do not have a "monopoly on Europeanness"

Medvedev hinted earlier that Russia might restore the death penalty now that it was out of the Council of Europe /4

Medvedev stated 2 conditions for a nuclear strike: an attack on Russia or an attack that paralyzed Russia's nuclear infrastructure

Given the "existential threat" narratives emanating from others in the Kremlin, this might not reassure many /5

Medvedev predicted the 1998 ruble crisis would not happen again as Russia learnt from the 2008 crisis

Medvedev reassured investors that Western companies would not be nationalized, and said Western companies privately discussed returning to Russia's market
/6
Medvedev also praised public support for the war in Ukraine, claiming it topped 75% and Putin's approval rating was higher

Medvedev also stated that Russian businesses and by implication, oligarchs, could not moderate or change Putin's direction on the war /7

Medvedev's message is that Russia is not isolated. Instead, it has expedited a multipolar order to respond to US aggression and European exclusion.

This message has resonated before in Russia and might do so again, in spite of mounting economic costs /end

• • •

 

Merzifonlu

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
691
Reactions
24 2,053
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
🇹🇷 will have to maneuver very diligently in the current and future geopolitical environments to its best ability and cognition. Just like every other country that have put some distance (at cost) with the West on many matters for a reason.

If many countries distance themselves from the West, it is the West that should be diligently, not Turkiye! There is one thing other countries know that they distance themselves from the West.

For Turkiye, this reasons has been the weapon and political support of NATO "allies" to the PKK, Syria, Iraq etc etc.

Let the Ukraine war not mislead anyone, for Turkiye, NATO is just a political lever, its military alliance relations with NATO were buried long ago.
 

Nilgiri

Experienced member
Moderator
Aviation Specialist
Messages
9,328
Reactions
96 18,913
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
India
If many countries distance themselves from the West, it is the West that should be diligently, not Turkiye! There is one thing other countries know that they distance themselves from the West.

For Turkiye, this reasons has been the weapon and political support of NATO "allies" to the PKK, Syria, Iraq etc etc.

Let the Ukraine war not mislead anyone, for Turkiye, NATO is just a political lever, its military alliance relations with NATO were buried long ago.

Yah you have to always know and put your interests first and foremost. The PKK/YPG stuff is just the current expedient "balancing" the powerful see fit to play on perceived softer target....the examples are immense in 20th century and so far in this 21st one.

Whatever larger security and economic alliance (a country opts for) is not some deep eternal brotherhood..... but time and means to transact from and build itself up to hedge on a future where these (alliances) may not exist.

There will always come a time where such will happen inevitably (the greatest lesson of history one can find IMO in the "modern" era). One can see the fissures and early signs anywhere with any example already (just matter of paying attention and being as rational as possible).

You simply have to be as powerful and developed as possible for that time....the prosperity and even basic survival of your people hinges on it in the end....being this prudent and aware in sufficient amount.

This globalism kumbaya experiment/narrative is a (hyper liberal) Western trick to try disguise/obfuscate these facts...while they indulge in tribalism and realism in deep ways (hypocritically) themselves. But onus is on everyone else to see past that and head nod and smile where needed to indulge what needs to be indulged where those transactions are still net favourable....through gritted teeth if needed.

If you do not care about yourself.....no one else will.
 

Huelague

Experienced member
Messages
3,594
Reactions
4 3,851
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
This war can only have one winner.

USA!

1. destroying EU-Army ambition
2. destroying 5. generation jet projects in EU
3. exporting (expensive) LNG to EU
4. exporting more weapons
5. controlling of "EU-airforce" backbone via (F-35)
6. expanding of US within EU.
7. eliminating Russian rival and weaken China
8. weaken Turkey's ambition
9...
 

chiphocks

Committed member
Messages
217
Reactions
70
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Russian missiles strike military command centre in Vinnytsia, says Ukrainian Air Force​


Russian missiles hit a military command centre in Ukraine's Vinnytsia city on Friday, said Kyiv officials. However, it was still not known about the casualties due to the attack. The Russian missiles hit the Air Force command at around 4:30 pm local time. Vinnytsia is situated in Central Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Air Force on Telegram said, "Today at around 4.30 p.m, the Russian occupiers launched a missile strike on the territory of the Air Force Command in Vinnytsia." It posted a picture of the centre after the alleged attack.


 

guest_07

Experienced member
Messages
2,393
Reactions
5,058
Nation of residence
Malaysia
Nation of origin
Malaysia
it is a WAR

You should focus to utilize all resources.
People are affected so bad. Humans need something to relax them. Other way it will brake their soul... Than nothing can able to fix them

There is so positve thing there.
-this high tech do not need supply of fuel
-this high teck is easy to be used. Do not need complex training
- it is Stealth - nobody expect that kind of slow vechile to approach enemy .......
- and there other thing to be said but you got the point ....

Japanese used bicycle successfully
in conquering Malaya (Malaysia during WW2),
from British.

https://cilisos.my/actually-right-why-did-the-japanese-use-bicycles-to-conquer-malaya/
 

Fuzuli NL

Experienced member
Germany Correspondent
Messages
2,859
Reactions
20 8,289
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
The army of Ukraine, actively withdrawing, mines fields and farmland, thereby endangering people's lives and jeopardizing the sowing campaign in Ukraine.
LOL

Are you serious?

Russians have razed Mariupol to the ground, literally regardless of how many civilians were killed, maimed or pushed away from their homes and you're talking about people's lives? Is that a joke?

Russian Orthodox Church head has declared this a "Holy War" and one of your head priests says "genocide in order". You've killed thousands upon thousands of civilians, specifically targeting hospitals, food queues, schools, and lately theatres with over 300 people with children seeking shelter and your air force obliterated them.
 

guest_07

Experienced member
Messages
2,393
Reactions
5,058
Nation of residence
Malaysia
Nation of origin
Malaysia
LOL

Are you serious?

Russians have razed Mariupol to the ground, literally regardless of how many civilians were killed, maimed or pushed away from their homes and you're talking about people's lives? Is that a joke?

Russian Orthodox Church head has declared this a "Holy War" and one of your head priests says "genocide in order". You've killed thousands upon thousands of civilians, specifically targeting hospitals, food queues, schools, and lately theatres with over 300 people with children seeking shelter and your air force obliterated them.

Did Mariupol mosque survive?
I curious....
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom