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The Russian army are monsters and they all deserve the worst death, now not all of them are like this, but those who took part, organized it, or even was an eye witness and let it happen, or even those who thought it was wrong and were disgusted but still didn’t do anything, those are the ones that need a slow death (e.g., by skinned them alive or burned them alive), so the strong sting can always stay with them in the afterlife, as a reminder to never forget how it was when you forgot what a human was.
Unfortunately I think that pretty large number are exactly like this. Tripoli, Aleppo,Grozni Afghanistan will tell you that. They have been like this since day one in their history. I am sure that there are a few exceptions but overall it really doesn't matter. I don't generalise them, they generalised themselves a long ago.
And don't let me search for the sordid statistics from Van, Dogubayezit ,Bitlis etc from 1915. Believe me I I can go through my books I find the details which makes Bucha Disneyland. Khoyali in which they were present, well if I quote from the Armenian " doctor " book you would vomit They have always perpetuated massacres, encouraged them , facilitated them and have been always in Alliance or friendship with the worst of the worst
 
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Do people on here really believe Ukraine is winning the war?

There are 80,000 Ukrainian troops being encircled in the east and their military at the strategic and operational level has been dismantled. So I don't really get it, people saying Ukraine is winning.

I also personally don't feel the Ukrainians have fought the war very well at all, on the strategic and operational level. They have left the bulk of their forces in the east to be encircled and destroyed, they haven't won a single operational victory and they are hunkering down in defensive positions and cities. So I don't see in what way they have defeated the Russians or the Donbass forces.

I am not Russian, I am Norman-English, with an Irish mother. Nor do I live in London, I live in Cumbria close to the border with Scotland. I have also never had Lebanese food. Haha.
 

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Do people on here really believe Ukraine is winning the war?

There are 80,000 Ukrainian troops being encircled in the east and their military at the strategic and operational level has been dismantled. So I don't really get it, people saying Ukraine is winning.

I also personally don't feel the Ukrainians have fought the war very well at all, on the strategic and operational level. They have left the bulk of their forces in the east to be encircled and destroyed, they haven't won a single operational victory and they are hunkering down in defensive positions and cities. So I don't see in what way they have defeated the Russians or the Donbass forces.

Just in case you missed anything, in the North the Russians had all left the Kiev-Chernihiv-Sumy front, retreating back to Belarus. While in the south the Russians are all but failed to take Odessa while getting expelled from Mykolaiv and Kherson is now threatened.

All the while the Russians already lost 2400+ equipment of all type including including at least 420 MBT, 280+ AFV and 400 IFV. In fact Ukraine tank force are getting larger than before the war tells us something.

In the air, the VKS are humiliated for not able to ground the UkAF and losing so many fighters and helicopters in a very short period of time.


Did Ukraine win? Noy yet, but Russia isn't winning either.
 

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Just in case you missed anything, in the North the Russians had all left the Kiev-Chernihiv-Sumy front, retreating back to Belarus. While in the south the Russians are all but failed to take Odessa while getting expelled from Mykolaiv and Kherson is now threatened.

All the while the Russians already lost 2400+ equipment of all type including including at least 420 MBT, 280+ AFV and 400 IFV. In fact Ukraine tank force are getting larger than before the war tells us something.

In the air, the VKS are humiliated for not able to ground the UkAF and losing so many fighters and helicopters in a very short period of time.


Did Ukraine win? Noy yet, but Russia isn't winning either.

All part of the master plan.
 

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Do people on here really believe Ukraine is winning the war?

There are 80,000 Ukrainian troops being encircled in the east and their military at the strategic and operational level has been dismantled. So I don't really get it, people saying Ukraine is winning.

I also personally don't feel the Ukrainians have fought the war very well at all, on the strategic and operational level. They have left the bulk of their forces in the east to be encircled and destroyed, they haven't won a single operational victory and they are hunkering down in defensive positions and cities. So I don't see in what way they have defeated the Russians or the Donbass forces.

I am not Russian, I am Norman-English, with an Irish mother. Nor do I live in London, I live in Cumbria close to the border with Scotland. I have also never had Lebanese food. Haha.
The area that you alleged that you come from a lot of British army soldiers come from and that kind of people always support British Government stance, I am familiar with this subject by the way. Also your style of writing isn't exactly British by the way. As of your assessment of the military situation does the Battle of Kiev 2022 ring a bell. Only Mariupol is surrounded, I suggest that you have a peek at the map. You can claim that you are not impressed by Ukrainians so after seeing this debacle in the North what we can say about the Russian army. Believe me ,I know English, they never shill in a such silly way
I suggest you to try the Lebanese food, it is much better then the lard and cabbage which you are used to
 

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Do people on here really believe Ukraine is winning the war?

There are 80,000 Ukrainian troops being encircled in the east and their military at the strategic and operational level has been dismantled. So I don't really get it, people saying Ukraine is winning.

I also personally don't feel the Ukrainians have fought the war very well at all, on the strategic and operational level. They have left the bulk of their forces in the east to be encircled and destroyed, they haven't won a single operational victory and they are hunkering down in defensive positions and cities. So I don't see in what way they have defeated the Russians or the Donbass forces.

I am not Russian, I am Norman-English, with an Irish mother. Nor do I live in London, I live in Cumbria close to the border with Scotland. I have also never had Lebanese food. Haha.
During the Syrian Civil War I came across a lot of people like you, supposed westerners who were in fact bearded akhmeds posting from a toilet in Damascus.
 

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The area that you alleged that you come from a lot of British army soldiers come from and that kind of people always support British Government stance, I am familiar with this subject by the way. Also your style of writing isn't exactly British by the way. As of your assessment of the military situation does the Battle of Kiev 2022 ring a bell. Only Mariupol is surrounded, I suggest that you have a peek at the map. You can claim that you are not impressed by Ukrainians so after seeing this debacle in the North what we can say about the Russian army. Believe me ,I know English, they never shill in a such silly way
I suggest you to try the Lebanese food, it is much better then the lard and cabbage which you are used to
I will give it a go next time I am in a major city in Britain. Thanks for the tip.

As I have said before, but I am anti-American, the Americans control the British government. So until the British state is free from the USA, I won't support anything it does for American interests.

Apparently the Russians moving against the cities was they trying to tie down Ukrainian forces, so they couldn't reinforce the Donbass region, giving the Russians time to encircle them. Which has happened. And Mariupol has been totally destroyed by the fighting, with around 8,000 Ukraine troops trapped. So they are going to lose 10% of their forces in one city. What the Ukrainians should have done is stationed a regiment in every major settlement, then pulled all their maneuver units back west of the big river. They could have smashed into the side of the Russian south advance and destroyed it, then over the next couple weeks enforce the entire river up to Kiev. Then as the Russians advance from the east, they attack the Russians. I still don't think the Ukrainians could have won, but they would have given the Russians a series of operation defeats.

The Ukrainian strategy has been wrong in my view.
 

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Do people on here really believe Ukraine is winning the war?

There are 80,000 Ukrainian troops being encircled in the east and their military at the strategic and operational level has been dismantled. So I don't really get it, people saying Ukraine is winning.

I also personally don't feel the Ukrainians have fought the war very well at all, on the strategic and operational level. They have left the bulk of their forces in the east to be encircled and destroyed, they haven't won a single operational victory and they are hunkering down in defensive positions and cities. So I don't see in what way they have defeated the Russians or the Donbass forces.

I am not Russian, I am Norman-English, with an Irish mother. Nor do I live in London, I live in Cumbria close to the border with Scotland. I have also never had Lebanese food. Haha.
Those troops have been "encircled" for 3 weeks now. And judging by the latest updates, not even the Russians can peddle that line anymore.

I also have no idea how you can claim that Ukraine hasn't won a single operational victory. You'd have to be living under a rock for the past month.
I will give it a go next time I am in a major city in Britain. Thanks for the tip.

As I have said before, but I am anti-American, the Americans control the British government. So until the British state is free from the USA, I won't support anything it does for American interests.

Apparently the Russians moving against the cities was they trying to tie down Ukrainian forces, so they couldn't reinforce the Donbass region, giving the Russians time to encircle them. Which has happened. And Mariupol has been totally destroyed by the fighting, with around 8,000 Ukraine troops trapped. So they are going to lose 10% of their forces in one city. What the Ukrainians should have done is stationed a regiment in every major settlement, then pulled all their maneuver units back west of the big river. They could have smashed into the side of the Russian south advance and destroyed it, then over the next couple weeks enforce the entire river up to Kiev. Then as the Russians advance from the east, they attack the Russians. I still don't think the Ukrainians could have won, but they would have given the Russians a series of operation defeats.

The Ukrainian strategy has been wrong in my view.
Losing a huge amount of men and equipment isn't how you do a distraction. If anything, based on the quality of troops that were being committed in the north and the ones in the east, it's pretty obvious Kiev was the main target and Russia is now trying to backpedal and pretend like it was all about Donbas all along.

Mariupol is an even worse example because the Russians STILL haven't taken it despite having it surrounded for more than a week and outnumbering the defenders to a ridiculous level. This speaks to a level of failure by the Russian army which makes even ISIS look competent. At least ISIS knew how to do basic combined arms warfare.
 
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I will give it a go next time I am in a major city in Britain. Thanks for the tip.

As I have said before, but I am anti-American, the Americans control the British government. So until the British state is free from the USA, I won't support anything it does for American interests.

Apparently the Russians moving against the cities was they trying to tie down Ukrainian forces, so they couldn't reinforce the Donbass region, giving the Russians time to encircle them. Which has happened. And Mariupol has been totally destroyed by the fighting, with around 8,000 Ukraine troops trapped. So they are going to lose 10% of their forces in one city. What the Ukrainians should have done is stationed a regiment in every major settlement, then pulled all their maneuver units back west of the big river. They could have smashed into the side of the Russian south advance and destroyed it, then over the next couple weeks enforce the entire river up to Kiev. Then as the Russians advance from the east, they attack the Russians. I still don't think the Ukrainians could have won, but they would have given the Russians a series of operation defeats.

The Ukrainian strategy has been wrong in my view.
A regiment in every city? Have you heard of the term " fragmentation of forces " ? The wars aren't fought like you think. Mariupol tied a lot of Russian forces and bought time for Odessa etc etc. As of America controlled Britain, more time pass more I think it is opposite. Anyway, do you honestly think that for the sake of " the independence " Britain would accept such gift like being allied with Russia ? At best your statement is childishly emotive.
 

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Many in the West are shocked about the massacres in the towns Russians retreated from yet I am not surprised even a bit. That is just what Russians do best and have been doing everywhere and every single time. Only this time we have smartphones and internet so we can all see their true face and animalistic behavior in all of it's "glory". For a month now we witness a barbaric act after another, day after day, hour after hour. A true sick mindset that is a result of hundreds of years of alcoholism, serfdom, anti- humanism... And the worst of it all is that they don't feel ashamed about it even though they see it with their own eyes too. And those who feel shame and are against this crazy War are just thrown into jail.

Hopefully more and more weaponry and supplies will be sent to Ukraine. As far as I know hundreds of thousands of volunteers are ready to fight but Ukraine just doesn't have the equipment to turn them into a battle force so right now even small things like AK47, camo, helmets, bullets, RPGs and MRE can be a big force multiplier for Ukraine.

Not even the crazy batshit ISIS is coming close to what those Russian pedo can do, burning pilots alive? They are combatant, at least. Beheaded enemies prisoner of war combatant? All fair in war, killing political opponents ? That's targeting killing is always happened in conflict area. What Russian do is make Taliban after take over of Afghanistan look like a saint today

What Russian has doing in Ukraine

Burning civillian alive? Yes Raping children ? Yes. Killing old ladies and her families in their car with 30 mm gun? Yes. Destroying theater sheltering 300 children? Yes. Preparing mass grave for hundreds thousands of civillian? Yes. Prepare mobile crematorium? Yes.
 

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After 1 month the Russians lost all their slow gains 🤣

How humiliating.
 

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