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they say that this is the moment the missile hit the cruiser "Moskva"

It has been reported that 2 Neptune missile fired against him but, I see that there's one hit and very devastating on the other hand.
 
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Yup recent reports state that Russia is amassing lots of troops, helicopters, ans jets just to take Donbass

Just hope that Ukraine has a plan to kill the Russian orcs once and for all

Heavy casualties just to take all of donbass.

This war will end up with a stalemate or a phryrric Russian victory.

This war has nothing more than backfired for the Russian armed forces while Ukraine surprised the world even if they lost they still fought back like lions.

Ukrainians have really defended well.
 

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Russians lost all that shit even failed to take Kiev.

They suffered heavy casualties and lost lots of materiel just to takeover donbass.

I dont think the Russians can sell this debacle as a victory no matter how hard their propaganda machine works to cover it up

Now they blame moskova ship on ammo blowing up.
 

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It usually means there is no further hope to save a ship if captain has ordered to abandon her. A though and last decision (actually one before the last: sinking own ship to not hand it over) to make but it means the ship is gone. If there was a hope they were going to remain and fight with the fire and flooding, and try to sail her to a safe harbor.

An abandoned ship with no crew and ongoing fire will sink definitely, sooner or later. The tugs will not attempt to recover and tow a warship on fire carrying tons of explosives.
Peskov said that they're actually towing it back. Can't confirm if it's real or for domestic consumption. Could the captain face court martial if the ship are somehow successfully towed back to port ?
 

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Peskov said that they're actually towing it back. Can't confirm if it's real or for domestic consumption. Could the captain face court martial if the ship are somehow successfully towed back to port ?

Its immobilised thats for sure even if it did not sink that ship has got taken out of action. Either it will get repaired or if the damage is too much it will get scrapped.

Im wondering any casualties.
 

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Its immobilised thats for sure even if it did not sink that ship has got taken out of action. Either it will get repaired or if the damage is too much it will get scrapped.

Im wondering any casualties.
Here's what I think. If it's successfully towed back, Putin will likely order the repair of the ship no matter how unfeasible it is. Cost doesn't matter for him.

Think about how on earth the Kuznetsov are still not decommissioned yet. Even though it has been troublesome and a constant humiliation at sea for the Russian navy.
 

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Heavy casualties just to take all of donbass.

This war will end up with a stalemate or a phryrric Russian victory.

This war has nothing more than backfired for the Russian armed forces while Ukraine surprised the world even if they lost they still fought back like lions.

Ukrainians have really defended well.
Agreed
But Putin is a dictator who needs to "win" something to present it to his people

Rn, Putin doesnt care about the losses. I already said that Putin is ready to sacrifice even 90,000 soldiers more just so that he can protect his image and the image of might russian military to his people

If you saw the russian media during the early days, they were like.... Victory is inevitable; thus, if Putin failed to deliver that then political uncertainity wuthin Russia will begin to bloom for the first time in 20 years; thus, the final nail in the coffin for Putin. It is already bad enough that the international image of "mighty Russian military that ranks 3rd worldwide" is in the dustbin
 

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