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Jagdflieger said:
You forgot to add - "with civilians inside and around being used or acting as human shields"

War is ugly like hell and not patriotic and beautiful
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What drivel. They can't be used as human shields since Russia doesn't care about slaughtering civilians. Your posts are consistently delusional.
 
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Jagdflieger said:
You forgot to add - "with civilians inside and around being used or acting as human shields"

War is ugly like hell and not patriotic and beautiful
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Where the hell else are they supposed to leave civilians? Unprotected? In a defensive war, civilians go where the army is or behind them to be protected.

And no shit they use residential buildings, that's like 90% of any given country, do you suggest that the Ukrainian army just sit out in the open for Russians to kill them?

This kind of rhetoric is by far the stupidest and more dishonest of the ones I've heard.
 
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Anastasius said:
Where the hell else are they supposed to leave civilians? Unprotected? In a defensive war, civilians go where the army is or behind them to be protected.

And no shit they use residential buildings, that's like 90% of any given country, do you suggest that the Ukrainian army just sit out in the open for Russians to kill them?

This kind of rhetoric is by far the stupidest and more dishonest of the ones I've heard.
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Obviously you never served in the Armed Forces in a respective rank. There are predefined protocols that regulate the evacuation procedures of civilians - independent of the latter liking it or not. That empty/cleared buildings are logically used and integrated into a defense position is standard within urban warfare doctrine.

Maybe you should keep you personal remarks for yourself if you got nothing of worth to contribute!
 
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Jagdflieger said:
Obviously you never served in the Armed Forces in a respective rank. There are predefined protocols that regulate the evacuation procedures of civilians - independent of the latter liking it or not. That empty/cleared buildings are logically used and integrated into a defense position is standard within urban warfare doctrine.

Maybe you should keep you personal remarks for yourself if you got nothing of worth to contribute!
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Predefined protocols fly out the window when you are surrounded by enemies and civilians have nowhere to run except to army positions. Is the Ukrainian army supposed to tell them to fuck off and find shelter somewhere else?
 
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Anastasius said:
Predefined protocols fly out the window when you are surrounded by enemies and civilians have nowhere to run except to army positions. Is the Ukrainian army supposed to tell them to fuck off and find shelter somewhere else?
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No army protocols, regulations and defined procedures do not fly out of the window - unless you want to face severe disciplinary actions and up to a court martial.

It is common practice (aside obviously at the UAF) to evacuate civilians before they are in range or in danger of being fired upon and especially when they are being fired upon.

There is also a vast difference of civilians getting trapped due to enemy forces rapidly advancing and cutting of retreat routes (e.g. Mariopol) - and those as it is in most cases in Ukraine - not being cut off from fleeing or being evacuated as presently in Luhansk, Donbass, Karkiv or Mikolaiv, etc. etc.
As one can observe and read upon e.g. Sloviansk - civilians are fleeing and evacuating themselves - no UAF conducted or even supported evacuations.
 
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The destruction of the Ukrainian UAV A1-SM "Fury" by the Russian air defense system 9K35 "Strela-10" was caught on video. The Strela-10 air defense system was put into service in 1976, after which it was repeatedly upgraded. The ammunition of the installation is 8 missiles, 4 on rails and 4 in the hull. The firing range of the air defense system is 5 km, the height of the target is 4 km. The advantages of the Strela-10 air defense system are its low cost, immunity to radio interference and invulnerability to anti-radar missiles. Disadvantages - the impossibility of firing at targets in bad weather conditions and sensitivity to optical interference. UAV A1-SM "Fury" of Ukraine is a drone designed for aerial reconnaissance day and night. The range of the UAV is up to 50 km, the maximum speed is 130 km / h, the time spent in the air is up to 3 hours, the height of use is a maximum of 2.5 km. The cost of the complex is 85 thousand dollars.


The Russian armored train "Brave" appeared in Ukraine. There are no exact characteristics of the Russian armored train yet. Russian BMP-2 and other weapons are installed on the armored train


The Ukrainian small anti-submarine ship "Vinnitsa", of the Soviet project 1124P, corvette according to NATO classification, was sunk in the port of Ochakov. On the video from the drone, the tail number U206 is clearly visible. It is not completely clear why the ship sank, whether it was the blows of the Russian army or Ukraine itself flooded it. The medium landing ship of Ukraine "Yury Olefirenko", of the Soviet project 773, came under fire from the Russian military, you can see it in the video, whether it sank or not is still unknown.

 
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Anastasius said:
Where the hell else are they supposed to leave civilians? Unprotected? In a defensive war, civilians go where the army is or behind them to be protected.

And no shit they use residential buildings, that's like 90% of any given country, do you suggest that the Ukrainian army just sit out in the open for Russians to kill them?

This kind of rhetoric is by far the stupidest and more dishonest of the ones I've heard.
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Many Germans have this weird fetish for Russians for some reason, i can not really explain why but i witness that from many Germans, espacially from those from the eastern parts of Germany, they are also usually close to right wing ideologies.
 
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