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Again, they can't do without arrogance.
I hope we drag them in the mud for years.
M
Nice cope for 2 days that become 3 months.
>we'll take kiev in 2 days
>fails
>we never wanted to take kiev
>we'll take the entire country in 3 weeks
>fails
And now comparing Nato air mission to Ukraine-Russia war.
can't wait to see his 2 page long explanation(Cope).
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Finland refused NATO membership without Sweden. Finland will not join NATO if Sweden's problems with Turkey mean delaying Swedish membership. This was expressed by Finnish President Sauli Niinistö at a press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Sunday.
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Finland avviser Nato-medlemskap uten Sverige
Finland vil ikke inn i Nato dersom Sveriges problemer med Tyrkia gjør at et svensk medlemskap blir utsatt. Det sa Finlands president Sauli Niinistö på en pressekonferanse med Natos generalsekretær Jens Stoltenberg søndag. – Jeg sier at Sveriges sak er vår. Det betyr at vi går videre hånd i hånd...
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The year 2037Finland refused NATO membership without Sweden. Finland will not join NATO if Sweden's problems with Turkey mean delaying Swedish membership. This was expressed by Finnish President Sauli Niinistö at a press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Sunday.
Finland avviser Nato-medlemskap uten Sverige
Finland vil ikke inn i Nato dersom Sveriges problemer med Tyrkia gjør at et svensk medlemskap blir utsatt. Det sa Finlands president Sauli Niinistö på en pressekonferanse med Natos generalsekretær Jens Stoltenberg søndag. – Jeg sier at Sveriges sak er vår. Det betyr at vi går videre hånd i hånd...
Sweden has agreed and implemented all conditions set by Türkiye and met and exceeded its expectations.
Finally, Türkiye welcomes Sweden to NATO with open arms.
Türkiye vetos Finland's membership bid for an amateurish statement by their president Ninistö in 2022 and it has no intention on lifting it.
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Interesting map:
If you would state that this is the USA's real intention/motivation I could wholehearted support this.
As for Russia - taking their own HUGE and even mostly untapped natural reserves into account - I don't see a motivation for this, maybe an added bonus.
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Eliminating competition, Ukraine has enough gas to be a true alternative to Russian gas for Europe.
Russia can not afford to loose Europe as customer, China and India dont pay the premium that Europe does.
no, it was to simple if made economics as main reason, main problem is that RU way to long under putin administration, he become megalomaniac who can do what he wants, without any ristriction from opositions, plus nuclear power in your hands,
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Yes and maybe we need the help of Hunter Biden.
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Consequence of Russian invasion of Ukraine is the re-militarization of Europe. Maybe we'll see Europe re-introducing conscription in the future as well.
and its getting dangerous as well because Russia will never recover completely from Ukraine and the comparative qualitative and quantitative edge will continue to tilt towards EU/NATO. Nukes could only be the only option to level the playing field.
This year Eurosatory is special as arms manufacturer no longer promote equipment for an insurgency but a peer warfare between nations.
and its getting dangerous as well because Russia will never recover completely from Ukraine and the comparative qualitative and quantitative edge will continue to tilt towards EU/NATO. Nukes could only be the only option to level the playing field.
This year Eurosatory is special as arms manufacturer no longer promote equipment for an insurgency but a peer warfare between nations.
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I rather think not - once this Ukraine issue is finished
It has always been nukes, since even during the Cold-war, the Soviet-Union was always outclassed by NATO
Fully agree
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Finland refused NATO membership without Sweden. Finland will not join NATO if Sweden's problems with Turkey mean delaying Swedish membership. This was expressed by Finnish President Sauli Niinistö at a press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Sunday.
Finland avviser Nato-medlemskap uten Sverige
Finland vil ikke inn i Nato dersom Sveriges problemer med Tyrkia gjør at et svensk medlemskap blir utsatt. Det sa Finlands president Sauli Niinistö på en pressekonferanse med Natos generalsekretær Jens Stoltenberg søndag. – Jeg sier at Sveriges sak er vår. Det betyr at vi går videre hånd i hånd...
1. "Finland refused NATO membership without Sweden". It is Okay with all others, it is own/Finland choice to refuse. It is not our problem, period..
2. Finland try to blackmail others and also trying to blame others for that it is own/Finland choose...
3. When you DID ACTIONS against Turkiye which are also FACT that they are systematic and still continue till present days then IT IS CLEAR TO ALL THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES.
What they suggest? to Forget and act that this NOT HAPPENED?
4. Sweden is the MAIN SOURCE of this 15+ years HOSTILITY against Turkiye. IF Finland choose to SUPPORT Sweden then IT IS THEIR CHOOSE. It is OK - "Finland refused NATO membership without Sweden".
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Germany is doing it ...SYSTEMATIC and CONTINUOUSLY
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-Giving the FACTS that Germany behaver Give little to Ukraine to Lie all Allies that you DO Provide Something to Ukraine.
-But on other side Germany increase payments to russia with 60% more.
-Also Scholz Keep lying and lying at same time DO ALL HE CAN to BLOCK ANY other EU and NATO members to provide ANY equipment from german origin to Ukriane, nevertheless that this military equipment is own by other country
For me and there are ALSO lot of think tank people SAY IT that Scholz will go to Ukraine to FORCE or TWIST Ukraine gov officials to surrender and prepare Minsk agreement version 3.0.0 ( just for information all previous Minks 1.0.0 and Minks 2.0.0 also initiated by Germany and FORCED Ukraine goverment lead to Russian to regroup and RE ATTACK). Each time russia killed Ukraine people and take more Ukraine territory.
Now russia is pushing germany to do the same AGAIN and Scholz is SHOWING that he will try to to DO that
-But on other side Germany increase payments to russia with 60% more.
-Also Scholz Keep lying and lying at same time DO ALL HE CAN to BLOCK ANY other EU and NATO members to provide ANY equipment from german origin to Ukriane, nevertheless that this military equipment is own by other country
For me and there are ALSO lot of think tank people SAY IT that Scholz will go to Ukraine to FORCE or TWIST Ukraine gov officials to surrender and prepare Minsk agreement version 3.0.0 ( just for information all previous Minks 1.0.0 and Minks 2.0.0 also initiated by Germany and FORCED Ukraine goverment lead to Russian to regroup and RE ATTACK). Each time russia killed Ukraine people and take more Ukraine territory.
Now russia is pushing germany to do the same AGAIN and Scholz is SHOWING that he will try to to DO that
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Ukraine artillery did it again...................lot o russian artillery junks ....wrecked
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The russian Orthodox Church is a terrorist organization that should more than obvious
What you say Sunglasses, gold chain neck-let, hat with markings of military group Nazis etc....
What you say Sunglasses, gold chain neck-let, hat with markings of military group Nazis etc....
