Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Ecderha]

How do you understand that they are russians?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559581357180960770

 

[Ecderha]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559584252416638976

Erdo will go to Ukraine?

 

[I_Love_F16]

Erdo will go to Ukraine?

Apparently, yes :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559593154105548803

 

[Woland]

Context sunshine, no one is justifying anything, rather contrary. That being said I am fairly certain m not off topic

There's no context here, just whataboutism. It's a common Russian tactic used by demagogues worldwide; when someone accuses you of something clearly wrong, point out that someone somewhere else is doing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

This topic is about the war in Ukraine, not the Iraq war or some other conflict. You want to talk about American atrocities? Feel free to start a topic for it elsewhere.

 

[Woland]

Are there any news about combat success of switch blates?

We haven't heard from them so far?

Himars and javelins seem the most lethal weapons of the war.

Limited success stories that I know of. A switchblade was recently used to take down a Russian communication tower and I've seen and heard of a handful of other stories, but overall it doesn't seem like the Ukrainian army is finding significant use out of them. This war is certainly used as testing ground for a lot of new equipment. Mostly Western equipment has proven to be excellent and far superior to Russian counterparts, but there are bound to be some disappointments from the Western side as well.

 

[Chakib.Y]

There's no context here, just whataboutism. It's a common Russian tactic used by demagogues worldwide; when someone accuses you of something clearly wrong, point out that someone somewhere else is doing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

This topic is about the war in Ukraine, not the Iraq war or some other conflict. You want to talk about American atrocities? Feel free to start a topic for it elsewhere.

For god's sake...


1-whataboutism is a fallacy used to refute criticism, which criticism being refuted here exactly? Did I say anywhere that it's okay to butcher civilians or condemning Russia for doing so is wrong ?

2-context was the point made by alpha on geopolitics further reinforcing his point by demonstrating that it's actually the case on other instances.

3-I'll cite any precedent as long as the conversation requires it, we're still on the topic of the war in Ukraine discussing the principles for evaluation of the geopolitical situation, no deviation here chief, it's all in your head.

 

[UkroTurk]

Ukraine aiming to create chaos within Russian forces, Zelenskiy adviser says​

Mykhailo Podolyak says Russian supply lines will be targeted and predicts similar attacks to last week’s explosion at Crimean airbase

Ukraine aiming to create chaos within Russian forces, Zelenskiy adviser says

Exclusive: Mykhailo Podolyak says Russian supply lines will be targeted and predicts similar attacks to last week’s explosion at Crimean airbase

www.theguardian.com

 

[500]

What happened in bucha is the rule in every single US invasion in the ME period, it's just that American are more efficient, more sadistic at it, oh and they have something commonly known as the Hague invasion act from 2002 to protect their men from prosecution lol. You can't even make that shit up

What Russia is doing now in Ukraine is bloody war to grab territories and ethnocide/genocide of Ukrainian people.

US never did anything like that since 19th century.


* In 1991 US intervened to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation.
* In 2002 US replaced dictator regime of Saddam with democratic government (ironically as result pro Iranian anti US parties came to power).
* In 2015 they intervened against ISIS.

In none of these wars US annexed single inch to themselves and did not try to ethnocide genocide any nation.

 

[Chakib.Y]

What Russia is doing now in Ukraine is bloody war to grab territories and ethnocide/genocide of Ukrainian people.

US never did anything like that since 19th century.


* In 1991 US intervened to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation.
* In 2002 US replaced dictator regime of Saddam with democratic government (ironically as result pro Iranian anti US parties came to power).
* In 2015 they intervened against ISIS.

In none of these wars US annexed single inch to themselves and did not try to ethnocide genocide any nation.

This very reply should be made a template for strawman arguments and cherry picking. I'll leave it here because engaging with you won't only be fruitless but will lead to actual deviations from the topic.

 

[Ryder]

What happened in bucha is the rule in every single US invasion in the ME period, it's just that American are more efficient, more sadistic at it, oh and they have something commonly known as the Hague invasion act from 2002 to protect their men from prosecution lol. You can't even make that shit up

Not to cover up american war crimes and atrocities but the Russians were much worse.

You know Russia has killed more Muslims in its entire history than the USA itself.

Russians played such a big role in destroying numerous Muslim communities with genocide and gulags along with famines.

Look up the Kazakh famine.

Not just Muslims they did the same thing in Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics.

The Russians have statues dedicated to Gregory Zass the man responsible for the Circassian genocide.

They also did numerous pogroms against Jews.

 

[Era_shield]

Russia has released its latest AI robot in Ukraine:

 

[Sami1234]

There's no context here, just whataboutism. It's a common Russian tactic used by demagogues worldwide; when someone accuses you of something clearly wrong, point out that someone somewhere else is doing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

This topic is about the war in Ukraine, not the Iraq war or some other conflict. You want to talk about American atrocities? Feel free to start a topic for it elsewhere.

You are mixing between Whataboutsim and accepting to be a hypocrite, to you whataboutsim is ignoring @500 Giving lessons about bloody wars and grabbing other's territories, that's not whataboutsim that's forcing the forum members to be hypocrites this is hurting the Ukrainian issue and causing it to lose credibility.

 

[500]

You are mixing between Whataboutsim and accepting to be a hypocrite, to you whataboutsim is ignoring @500 Giving lessons about bloody wars and grabbing other's territories, that's not whataboutsim that's forcing the forum members to be hypocrites this is hurting the Ukrainian issue and causing it to lose credibility.

Fun fact. UN condemned Israel quadrillion times, more than all other countries combined. Yet UN never called Israel "aggressor". Unlike Russia.

 

[UkroTurk]

Red Line: 14.08.2022
Black Line:10.07.2022

 

[Ecderha]

Bullseye
How 500$ drone with 40$ ammo destroy russian junk armor worth 2 mil $

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559939035107319809

 

[Ecderha]

putin army blame Tatars....................as expected from russian savages

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559886408671809536

 

[Ecderha]

"I consider it very shameful that russian tourists can sunbathe and live a luxurious life in the south of Europe, while Ukrainian cities are bombed beyond recognition," the minister emphasized.

Denmark joining the club of countries which apply VISA BAN for russians

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559964387145818128

 

[Ecderha]

Trophies of one Ukrainian soldier from dead russian soldiers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559944340855836672

 

[Ecderha]

One of many but this guy is very well proven and respected by Ukraine army

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559915758217478145

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559909251547529217

 

[Ecderha]

A lady is dancing in the center of Kyiv to a hit song "Glory to Armed Forces of Ukraine!"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1559504780699082752