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The Disaster and Emergency Management Presidency (AFAD) provides hot meals to the residents of the Ukrainian city of Chernigiv, where fierce clashes and air strikes took place in the first days of the Russia-Ukraine War.
 

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The Ukrainians would be smart to establish as much fire control over Russians retreat routes as possible as we descend into the winter. The front line Russian troops will not be adequately equipped for the cold winter and resupplying them will be extremely difficult (if even a priority at all for Russian leadership)...

Freeze them out. Anti-personnel GMRLS, drone strikes and gps guided 155mm if they try to retreat to warmth. Maximize casualties if they try to exfill. Force them into the decision to 1). Surrender or 2). Die of hypothermia or other cold related illnesses in trenches and foxholes.

Ensure that the winter is miserable beyond all measure. Eviscerate their will to fight. Prolonged exposure to extreme cold will do that. Frostbite, hypothermia, gangrene, pneumonia, respiratory infections, etc... The winter can be a nightmare, in Ukraine's favour.

It's also important that us Westerners continue to stomach inflationary pressures in order to keep the arms flow heading into Ukraine. We can never forget that we're getting the cheapest price we ever will to neuter the Russian dogs, and Ukraine is willing and able to do the fighting on the ground, as long he we keep having their backs. We have the opportunity to not only set the Russian military back for multiple decades, but we can also deeply destroy their economy and supply chains, while cutting the average Russian off from a significant portion of the developed world in the process. It's time that we start liquidating the more than $300 Billion in Russian assets that we (the West) have frozen to this point. That's an enormous war chest to draw from and that money will go a long way to stabilizing Ukraine's economy at the same time.
 
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Russia has lost 27 out of 90 Ka-52 Alligator attack chopper. That's 30% of the entire fleet.


Some interesting fact here. Ukraine has lost 12 out of initial 17 active bombers. But there's actually enough air frame (rebuild) to sustain operations until at least 2025 with similar lost rate.

 
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Russia has lost 27 out of 90 Ka-52 Alligator attack chopper. That's 30% of the entire fleet.


Some interesting fact here. Ukraine has lost 12 out of initial 17 active bombers. But there's actually enough air frame (rebuild) to sustain operations until at least 2025 with similar lost rate.

Whatever hit that Ka-52 wasn't a MANPADS or an AA missile, neither ground-based nor air based. To me it looks like either a MAM-L with proximity fuse or, less likely, a BONUS round or, even less likely, an Excalibur round.
 

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Whatever hit that Ka-52 wasn't a MANPADS or an AA missile, neither ground-based nor air based. To me it looks like either a MAM-L with proximity fuse or, less likely, a BONUS round or, even less likely, an Excalibur round.
Definitely do not think it's MAM-L. Here is another video (slowed down) of the missile strike. Appears to me to be something Soviet made... BUK or S-300 most likely. It's obviously very hard to make out the exactly type of missile, but it's obvious that it's a fairly big piece of kit.

MAM-L is only about 1 meter in length. This looks bigger than that, IMO.

 

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Whatever hit that Ka-52 wasn't a MANPADS or an AA missile, neither ground-based nor air based. To me it looks like either a MAM-L with proximity fuse or, less likely, a BONUS round or, even less likely, an Excalibur round.
It really looks very interesting. A big blast that's cutting from the sky towards the ground. What's the chance of top attack ATGM strike?
 

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Most likely explanation is that a missile plummeted towards the ka-52 after finishing its ascending path. Kinda like a ballistic arc.
 
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Definitely do not think it's MAM-L. Here is another video (slowed down) of the missile strike. Appears to me to be something Soviet made... BUK or S-300 most likely. It's obviously very hard to make out the exactly type of missile, but it's obvious that it's a fairly big piece of kit.

MAM-L is only about 1 meter in length. This looks bigger than that, IMO.

Hmm, yeah that does look too big for a MAM-L. And from this angle the use of shaped charge is ruled out. But the high angle of the attack makes it very unlikely it was any kind of ground based AA. The Ukrainians say something very unusual was used for this strike but they don't say what it was. Maybe laser-guided MLRS? I guess we'll find out later on.
 

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