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hmmm perhaps ukraine media is right that they are withdrawing troops from the ZPR region to get closer to kyiv from the looks of it. :unsure:
please...when kharkiv oblast fall to Ukraine the big factors is because of reposition of some elite groups of RU miltary to ZPR, but, until now, in ZPR RU movements just flat, nothing happens since the arival of the elite groups, only goodwill gesture happen in kherson..wk wk wk wk wk wk
 

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please...when kharkiv oblast fall to Ukraine the big factors is because of reposition of some elite groups of RU miltary to ZPR, but, until now, in ZPR RU movements just flat, nothing happens since the arival of the elite groups, only goodwill gesture happen in kherson..wk wk wk wk wk wk
This was a Ukrainian cemetery in September.

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You can pretty much see Ukraine's own expectations of the war.
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Since you're talking about Kherson I heard that the amount of Ukrainian troops they had in the direction of kherson had to go to bakhmut which Russians dubbed the name of the place the meatgrinder. I wonder how Kherson is going to be later but Bakhmut seems to be very important for the Ukrainians.
 

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This was a Ukrainian cemetery in September.

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You can pretty much see Ukraine's own expectations of the war.
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Since you're talking about Kherson I heard that the amount of Ukrainian troops they had in the direction of kherson had to go to bakhmut which Russians dubbed the name of the place the meatgrinder. I wonder how Kherson is going to be later but Bakhmut seems to be very important for the Ukrainians.
every single inch of ukrania land is important for ukranian. they defend the motherland from occupier like we did here 77 years ago, with life, blood n tears.
 

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every single inch of ukrania land is important for ukranian. they defend the motherland from occupier like we did here 77 years ago, with life, blood n tears.
You know I don't really care about all that, i am 110% sure if we transferred every user from defense hub and every user from Russia defense net forums to a random online forum some place with this thread you guys would be arguing 24/7 about who has the higher moral ground which I don't give a shit about. I am just posting current actions with visual evidence what is going on and who is currently taking what.
 

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You know I don't really care about all that, i am 110% sure if we transferred every user from defense hub and every user from Russia defense net forums to a random online forum some place with this thread you guys would be arguing 24/7 about who has the higher moral ground which I don't give a shit about. I am just posting current actions with visual evidence what is going on and who is currently taking what.
from rusky side of course, and its up to you
 

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Ursula said 100k Ukrainians got killed.

Dont know how reliable that figure is.

But shows how both sides have accumulated massive casualties.

The fighting is so fierce its no surprise the high casualty rates.
 

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Who knows Arabic? This video was found on the phone of a murdered Russian. The book at the end of the video was used by Russians instead of toilet paper. What is this book ?
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It is the holy Quran
I truly hope Russians lose this war
 

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Ursula said 100k Ukrainians got killed.

Dont know how reliable that figure is.

But shows how both sides have accumulated massive casualties.

The fighting is so fierce its no surprise the high casualty rates.
I don't know if that's an accurate total, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were North of 150,000- 200,000 combined KIA and WIA, on each side.

This war will come down to 3 things...

1. What is the Russian public's appetite for loss of life? Are they willing to withstand another significant round of mobilization? Would 500,000 KIA and WIA be too much for them? I suspect that Ukraine is all in. They'd probably be willing to suffer 1 million WIA and KIA if that's what it takes to win. A sobering reality and significant question, for both sides.

2. What will give first? The West's desire to support Ukraine and defeat the Russian military for a generation, at the best discount they'll ever get? Or the Russian support of this "special military operation"? How much economic retraction, and induced hardship will Russians withstand before they start pressuring their politicians for a resolution?

3. Who can out supply who? Who can train troops faster / better? The Ukrainians, who will be training troops largely outside of Ukraine throughout 2023, or the Russians, who are strictly training their troops inside Russia? Who runs out / low on artillery shells and long range strike capability first? The West is ramping up production in Europe and the United States, while Russia is ramping up internally and getting help from the likes of North Korea. Who will run out of tanks, IFVs, etc that they are willing to lose, first? Will Ukraine get the continued support they require and constant infusions of modern equipment, or will the West stop supplying equipment when they've exhausted their obsolete stockpiles in storage and refuse to send their modern equipment into battle? Will the Russians chew through the remainder of their modern equipment fast enough that they're deeply out gunned and the technological edge favours Ukraine too deeply? How about the battle between Russian cruise missile strikes and the bolstering of Ukrainian air defense. What gives first? Does the West provide Ukraine with enough systems and enough missiles to intercept the large majority of the inventory Russia has left, or are the Russians able to missile strike Ukraine into submission before the air defense can be built up enough that it becomes too much to overcome?

Those are the three major questions in the short term. The Americans are likely going to spend another $37 billion on military aid for Ukraine in 2023. They'll probably spend close to that between humanitarian aid and propping up the Ukrainian Government next year as well. If the the other 30'ish countries make similar ratios of contributions next year, Ukraine is likely to see North of $50 Billion in military aid, and more than $5 billion per month in financial / humanitarian aid.

Can Russia match that moving forward into 2023? Or does the collective foreign support for Ukraine simply become too much to overcome?
 

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This was a Ukrainian cemetery in September.

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You can pretty much see Ukraine's own expectations of the war.
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Since you're talking about Kherson I heard that the amount of Ukrainian troops they had in the direction of kherson had to go to bakhmut which Russians dubbed the name of the place the meatgrinder. I wonder how Kherson is going to be later but Bakhmut seems to be very important for the Ukrainians.
Bakhmut is not only important to Ukraine but also Russia
Bakhmut can be a bridgehead for Ukraine to initiate new offensive operations as well as destroying all the Russian supply routes in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions and the same is for Russia. Having Bakhmut under Russia means that the offensive within the region is pretty much gonna fall into Russian hands since Bakhmut is like a fortress


Bakhmut is like the heart of Luhansk by now; you lose it and it will be very difficult to win the region back
 

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If Elon bans kanye, it will tank the reputation he has been trying to build as an advocate of free speech.
Kanye knows this, and doesn't care either way. If Kanye doesn't get banned, his message gets out. If he does get banned, Streisand effect will happen, and all of Elon's bullshit about being a defender of free speech gets instantly destroyed (inb4 Elon hasn't reinstated Alex Jones yet). If anyone doesn't get the joke on 1st picture he has a net and the bottle says yahoo and Israel's PM is Benjamin Netanyahu and kanye made alot of antisemitic tweets. I was even convinced and in suspense he was going to call out Zelensky's religious background next and associate it with Azov Nazi symbols next.

If he is jokingly chosen as a presidential candidate for 2024 i am sure he will be on Russia's side in this war, so if you guys' support Ukraine don't vote for Kanye.
 

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How the fck does Kanye West know about Slavic politics and the whole Ukraine vs Russia.

Kanye West would end up nuking both countries.
 
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How fck does Kanye West know about Slavic politics and the whole Ukraine vs Russia.

Kanye West would end up nuking both countries.
1. Knows the name of some random country's prime minister which shows he has some interests in politics involving other countries, so there is a likely chance he knows about the situation in the hot topic of the Russian Ukrainian war going on.

2. Using the star of David with the swastika in the center, as much as everyone here has a Ukraine does no wrong attitude before February 2022 there was a lot of anti-Nazism of Ukraine's politics than after invasion media does a sudden 180 and there are a shit ton of photos online where Ukrainians associate themselves with swastikas and SS symbols, etc. The top rulers in Ukraine have a Jewish background like Zelensky, some billionaire Jewish Ukrainian oligarch and their military official which had a photo of him at the wailing wall in israel but the swastika symbol was exposed on the back of his neck. So, it might not be just a coincidence that that he made that post

I am just saying there is a good chance if he ever becomes a presidential candidate, he will not take the side of Ukraine, western media underestimated Trump before in 2016.
 

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1. Knows the name of some random country's prime minister which shows he has some interests in politics involving other countries, so there is a likely chance he knows about the situation in the hot topic of the Russian Ukrainian war going on.

2. Using the star of David with the swastika in the center, as much as everyone here has a Ukraine does no wrong attitude before February 2022 there was a lot of anti-Nazism of Ukraine's politics than after invasion media does a sudden 180 and there are a shit ton of photos online where Ukrainians associate themselves with swastikas and SS symbols, etc. The top rulers in Ukraine have a Jewish background like Zelensky, some billionaire Jewish Ukrainian oligarch and their military official which had a photo of him at the wailing wall in israel but the swastika symbol was exposed on the back of his neck. So, it might not be just a coincidence that that he made that post

I am just saying there is a good chance if he ever becomes a presidential candidate, he will not take the side of Ukraine, western media underestimated Trump before in 2016.

As if Russia does not have a Nazi problem itself.

Russia has lots of Neo Nazis even your Wagner Group is full of them.
 

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It is the holy Quran. The way they are talking with the arrogance in their voice I am not convinced that they don't know what is this book. "This is how we live" he says... I am not shocked.

Yeah we know some people may defend this cruel Russian behavior and say it's zelenskis fault or pinpoint USA doing the same 🤔

Come on defend this guys 😉
 

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Bakhmut is not only important to Ukraine but also Russia
Bakhmut can be a bridgehead for Ukraine to initiate new offensive operations as well as destroying all the Russian supply routes in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions and the same is for Russia. Having Bakhmut under Russia means that the offensive within the region is pretty much gonna fall into Russian hands since Bakhmut is like a fortress


Bakhmut is like the heart of Luhansk by now; you lose it and it will be very difficult to win the region back

It went from taking Kiev, Kherson, Odessa to now Bakmut.

Russians are now trying to reinforce their gains from 2014 and 2015.

I see footage of the Ukrainian armed forces now facing muddy season now winter is coming which is making offensives even harder.

Footage of Russians getting killed in Verdun like conditions.

Bakmut has become like Verdun.

Winter is going to be hell.

I still believe Ukraine has the Initiative. With Russia losing Kherson I really believed this would be the beginning of the end.

But it seems the Russians wont be backing down. These guys have suffered so many casualties and set backs that they are resorting to NK and Iran for weapons.

In Australia most people forgotten the war the war now barely takes up any news.

Sad thing like all conflicts when it drags on most of the public now forgets even exists.

Most of us in this forum I still following the events and whats going on.

Such a shame to see people forgetting these conflicts worldwide regardless if its in Ukraine, Syria or Ethiopia.

The Tigray War barely had any mention in this country.

Russians are in a ww1 like situation. Heavy casualties, no end in sight with people now getting war weary while the gains they made in 2014 and 2015 are under threat.

Ukraine does one big offensive which breaks Russia. I think it will end the war.

How many hits is Russia going to take? This war has turned upside down.

Remember how WW1 was believed to end by Christmas 1914. The Russians now have their own.
 
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