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The Covert Polish Repair Shop Patching Up Ukrainian Arms

Hundreds of technicians at a sprawling factory complex are working around the clock to repair Ukraine’s artillery and armor and return it to the front line.
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Out of something like 72 Krabs send to Ukraine, propably about 10 is lost and some needs repair :)
Maybe some that were considered lost is still repairable?
"“That one actually arrived here in the worst condition we have seen,” says engineer Mirosław Surowaniec, pointing to the revitalized Krab, one of 10 guns repaired in recent months. “The entire gun barrel was missing, the body badly damaged.”"



There are talks about sending Mirage 2000 planes. 3-4 5F interception version and 6 to 8 5D ground attack version.
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For a few days now, we have known that negotiations have been taking place at a very high level between French and Ukrainian diplomats. Their goal seems to be the supply of six to eight two-seater Mirage 2000Ds for ground attack and close tactical support and that of three to four Mirage 2000-5Fs for interception and air defense. Planes that would be taken from the current stocks of the Air and Space Force in order to fill the Viysʹkovo-povitryani Syly Respubliky Ukrayina in the coming months.
Such a supply by France would require sending mechanics and Ukrainian pilots to France to train them on the delta fighter. A procedure that would take several months and would not allow the Mirage 2000s to be on the job before the end of the summer of 2023 at the earliest. A time that would allow Dassault Aviation to recondition these planes for their use against Russia."
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Après le F-16 Fighting Falcon le Mirage 2000 intéresse l'Ukraine. — avionslegendaires.net

Le 29 janvier 2023, par Arnaud. Verra t-on bientôt voler l'un des fleurons français sous la fameuse cocarde jaune et bleue ? Alors que l'idée de fournir à Kyïv des General Dynamics F-16 Aéronefs Militaires
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Olaf Scholz, Ukrayna'ya savaş uçağı gönderme seçeneğini reddetti

Alman Başbakan, Kiev'e uçak desteği olasılığını kabul edemeyeceğini söyledi.
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**Deciding to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, Germany now faced pressure to send fighter jets.

After the decision to send tanks, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz ruled out options to provide fighter jets and ground troops to Kiev.**

If so many concessions are made to Zelenski, he will eventually want ass for fun. The end of this is already clear.

This man has forgotten that the security of his country is his responsibility. He thinks he's putting the work on other people's backs.
 
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The Russians can laugh all they want and discredit the Leo 2s and Abrams (its not illegal irl and in the board). But its clear from the 3 things that made an excellent MBT (mobility, firepower and protection) these are the best you can get on the market right now.

In the end its the Russian tankers in their outgunned T-72s and T-62s that will face these 60+ tons monsters on tracks.

I imagine this what an opposition tankers crew looks like once the L55 guns are trained towards you, while your old Mango shells failed to penetrate
 
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Well there are over 1000 T-90s that are still getting produced (there are also T-72B3s) and most are getting upgraded to the breakthrough standard using armata cannons with Vacuum-1 rounds. But why should that matter if there are helicopters that can identify and outrange them with ATGMs, use other armored vehicles or call artillery strikes.
 
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Well there are over 1000 T-90s that are still getting produced (there are also T-72B3s) and most are getting upgraded to the breakthrough standard using armata cannons with Vacuum-1 rounds. But why should that matter if there are helicopters that can identify and outrange them with ATGMs, use other armored vehicles or call artillery strikes.
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You forgot to tell us that russians have no optics for "new" tanks :)
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As a result, the latest version of the T-72B3M model of 2022 was developed. The new iteration of the tank received additional dynamic protection "Contact-1", which covered a number of vulnerabilities (fenders, gun mantlet, hull along the side, lower frontal part), anti-cumulative mesh at the turret ring and brackets on the turret, apparently intended for installation of a lattice screen against the UAV over the car.

Judging from reportage "Izvestia", while instead of the "Sosna-U" sight, which is highly effective, the tanks began to be equipped with a simpler analogue 1PN96MT-02 (its monitor is shown on the video in the MBT cockpit), which has a shorter enemy detection range (3 km instead of 5) and Lower resolution IR camera. A similar sight is received by the T-80BVM tanks of the 2022 model instead of the previously installed Sosny-U."

Ohh, and just read your own people commentaries
"The problem is not in the sights, the T-72 does not have armor-piercing shells in its ammunition load to effectively deal with the "leopards", and the "abrams" is not tough for him at all, if only to hit the sides. It's like a T-34 against a "tiger" from a distance of 400 meters punched, but it still needs to be approached. I hope the Russian military-industrial complex has already come up with something."
 
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MaciekRS said:
You forgot to tell us that russians have no optics for "new" tanks
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I already did, its not my fault english is not your 1st language from the sources i provided earlier.

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As a result, the latest version of the T-72B3M model of 2022 was developed. The new iteration of the tank received additional dynamic protection "Contact-1", which covered a number of vulnerabilities (fenders, gun mantlet, hull along the side, lower frontal part), anti-cumulative mesh at the turret ring and brackets on the turret, apparently intended for installation of a lattice screen against the UAV over the car.
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what are you talking about? the T-72B3 uses kontact-5 http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t72b3.htm the T-72B4 uses relikt.

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Judging from reportage "Izvestia", while instead of the "Sosna-U" sight, which is highly effective, the tanks began to be equipped with a simpler analogue 1PN96MT-02 (its monitor is shown on the video in the MBT cockpit), which has a shorter enemy detection range (3 km instead of 5) and Lower resolution IR camera. A similar sight is received by the T-80BVM tanks of the 2022 model instead of the previously installed Sosny-U."
https://en.topwar.ru/209703-novejsh...kov-stali-poluchat-bolee-prostye-pricely.html
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you went from no optics on the 1st sentence, but you change your mind on the 3rd paragraph by talking about russian optics, so which is it? This is why we have stereotypes of insulting poles in english countries, and your case doesn't make it any better. You can even see the guy in the end of the video crack a smile saying polish engineering.

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Ohh, and just read your own people commentaries
"The problem is not in the sights, the T-72 does not have armor-piercing shells in its ammunition load to effectively deal with the "leopards", and the "abrams" is not tough for him at all, if only to hit the sides. It's like a T-34 against a "tiger" from a distance of 400 meters punched, but it still needs to be approached. I hope the Russian military-industrial complex has already come up with something."
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The sights really dont matter when tanks can get tracked on helicopter radars which provide target radar information to ground units which offer the options of krasnopol shells, vikhr, hermes, LMUR, refleks, Sprinter, ataka, kornets, maybe konkurs based on what they did to Turkish Leopard 2A4s in the syrian war, 300mm artillery strikes, etc the options are limitless even more options than what the Syrians had in dealing with armored units. Based on helicopter radar information not even a 3rd gen FLIR on a m1a2SEPv4 would give it the advantage of identifying targets 1st. Just a friendly reminder these helicopters are not like apaches which use millimeter radars that limit them to an 8km range. I will probably repeat myself again but the T-90s are getting modified T-14 cannons which can use Vacuum-1 rounds which based on penetration claims will destroy all western MBTs with one shot but maybe there would be some rare instances the challenger 2 would survive depending on where it gets hit in the front. And if they do go on a major offensive Russians have some mine laying vehicles which will slow the progress of western MBTs and start eating ATGMs and artillery strikes.
 
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