Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War
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To go it alone Turkey needs her own nuclear deterrent.
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You are a funny guy.
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In my post where did you read my declaration of support for Russia?
As for Ukraine under AK party we left it too late again, truth be told the moment ukraine become independent Turkey should have been building up and supporting in everyway possible.
But none of these european christian nations are honest brokers towards Turkey. Le the real religion of peace once again show the world how they warmonger and murder millions.
But Russia constantly playing the little vulnerable victim is hilarious. Has any other nation in history with so much military might behaved like such a little baby?
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Nuclear, chemical, biological. Every weapon!!
Including hypersonic missiles.
Turkiye needs to build itself strong deterrents to protect its country but also its interests.
Australia should also have the same mentality too bad our politicians love staying in the usa camp.
If Australia had nukes I doubt China would be threatening this country. Our defence industry also got gutted by politicians who preferred buying rather than building.
According to newly received satellite images, there are 35 combat helicopters at an air base located 16 km from the Ukrainian border.
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I don't even need to watch the video tbh (as good as caspian report is in general).
Germany has been an especially disappointing country at large in geopolitical realm (relative to their potential at hand)...
Their psyche took a real gut punch in a way no one else did.... because of an extremism they went all in on.... when they lost their minds and went punch drunk on it, in all directions....and then got the final reality-check conclusion on that.
Thus they (downstream) have a very transactional, opportunistic-greed-based relationship with Russia (and China)....drastically contrary to their hypocrite sermons they keep doing (in all manner of ways) to try make up for the guilt + self hate/doubt.....all with no substance to back it up in the end.
This is the problem when you now have a full guilt/doubt thing deep down and layer over it with whatever cringe complex among your elite+elitists running the show.
No country should take a sermon from Germany or expect a fealty + accountability on that same sermon (promises and blah blah from it) ....or anything in general with whatever German political class asserts with their weak words in this arena.
The details come out for any country (especially removed enough from european context) if you pay attention closely.
Germans w.r.t India for example do a ton of hypocrite crap (waaaay past the norm) about what they can and cant sell us because "feelings".
OK then, we will just go to France and/or US for military tech + dev. Germans always consistently reeeee about this stuff so bad in the end, its ridiculous....the smug-brattish psyche always out there front and centre if you know what it is.
You have to skirt military + geopolitics related stuff with Germany 100% as the operating principle if you are not trad-European....have to be 100% focused only on solid knowhow + economic + greed transaction based stuff only. They are very "intellectual but idiot" type in the end I find.....making some fantasies on how the world operates because of their phantom memory need.
2 F-16s from the US Air Force have started to fly in Romanian airspace with AIM-120C/D AMRAAM medium range air-to-air missiles and AIM-9X short-range air-to-air missiles.
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Two U.S. F-16s From Aviano AB Have Carried Out A Mission Over Eastern Europe Carrying Live Missiles Today
Photos taken today prove at least two Vipers of the 31st Fighter Wing launched from Aviano with live air-to-air missiles. Two U.S. Air Force F-16CM
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Hitler was nothing more than curse but at the same time.
German history is enormous how stupid to relegate thousand years of history just for one nutter.
Seriously im happy us Turks dont live with stupid guilt ridden bs.
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nothing funnier than being a forum filled with turkish pro-west users that get shit on, on a daily basis by the west. I thought the mighty ottomans would have some respect for themselves here at least. 
nothing funnier than being a forum filled with turkish pro-west users that get shit on, on a daily basis by the west. I thought the mighty ottomans would have some respect for themselves here at least. 
I thought Turkey is a full fledged country,
a NATO member that
neither pro-West (US & the gang)
nor pro-East (Russia, China & the gang).
No one is Turkey's true friend, except Azerbaijan. Countries we call NATO allies and the west in general keep backstabbing us at every turn. But we can't be allies with the east either, because our interests don't exactly allign in most things. Turkey is too big to accept the role of a vassal and loyally obey a master. When Turkey follows its own interests, that angers this side or that side. So what Turkey has been doing is following the balance policy, a method Ottoman Empire used during its weak last centuries. Exploiting the conflicts and disputes between big powers, for its own interest and survival. See, we are not so different than Ottomans after all.nothing funnier than being a forum filled with turkish pro-west users that get shit on, on a daily basis by the west. I thought the mighty ottomans would have some respect for themselves here at least. 
I believe most Turkish users here know better than blindly love the west. They treat Turkey unfairly and definitely not friendly. Some of that because of Erdoğan's big mouth and faulty politics though. I think the relationship between Turkey and the west unlikely to be fixed untill Erdoğan loses the election and we have a new president. After that, depending on the president and his politics, we'll see what happens.
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Neither Germany nor Turkey supports Ukraine. Germany and Turkey are in the same camp since 1900. Every German administration - started with Kaiser Wilhelm till Adolf Hitler and Willy Brandt till Helmut Köhl and Angela Merkel - supported Turkey in every way (EU, NATO etc). Merkel alone saved Erdogan from harsh EU-sanctions numerous times. The recent German weapon embargos were forced by European pressure, the public opinion and the PKK-lobby.
There are 3 blocs now in the world and you see those blocs in every case, also the Ukrainian conflict.
Bloc 1.- US and UK and their allies and there hemisphere mostly from WO II: Japan, Canada, South-Korea, Australia, India, France, Greece, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, The Baltics, Israel, Taiwan, Philipines, Indonesia, Brazil, Thailand, Jordan, Kuwait, Paraguay, Chili, South-Africa, Colombia, Morocco, Georgia.
Bloc 2.- Russia-China gang with their hemisphere Iran, Syria, Egypt, Belarus, Afghanistan, Kazachstan, Armenia, Mongolia, North-Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Sudan, Vietnam, Algeria, Argentina, Uruguay, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Cuba, Tadzjikistan, Angola.
Bloc 3.- The Turkish-German alliance. This is the smallest bloc, but also the most neutral bloc. It started in 1900 with a German-Turkish friendship and it contains allied countries from the First and Second World Wars (most friendships are from Nazi/Ottoman hemisphere). It includes Turkey, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Spain, Bulgaria, Romania, Iraq, Azerbaijcan, Qatar, Malaysia, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Libya, Tunesia, Bangladesh, Somalia.
You can see the patterns in the international arena.
There are 3 blocs now in the world and you see those blocs in every case, also the Ukrainian conflict.
Bloc 1.- US and UK and their allies and there hemisphere mostly from WO II: Japan, Canada, South-Korea, Australia, India, France, Greece, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, The Baltics, Israel, Taiwan, Philipines, Indonesia, Brazil, Thailand, Jordan, Kuwait, Paraguay, Chili, South-Africa, Colombia, Morocco, Georgia.
Bloc 2.- Russia-China gang with their hemisphere Iran, Syria, Egypt, Belarus, Afghanistan, Kazachstan, Armenia, Mongolia, North-Korea, Myanmar, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Sudan, Vietnam, Algeria, Argentina, Uruguay, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Cuba, Tadzjikistan, Angola.
Bloc 3.- The Turkish-German alliance. This is the smallest bloc, but also the most neutral bloc. It started in 1900 with a German-Turkish friendship and it contains allied countries from the First and Second World Wars (most friendships are from Nazi/Ottoman hemisphere). It includes Turkey, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Spain, Bulgaria, Romania, Iraq, Azerbaijcan, Qatar, Malaysia, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Libya, Tunesia, Bangladesh, Somalia.
You can see the patterns in the international arena.
