Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

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Even if Russia wins the war with Ukraine, whatever the chances of that actually happening aside, how are they going to recover from that?
At this point what does a victory look like for Russia and will it better then how it looked prior to the invasion?

China + I suppose the west will descalate once he takes Kiev, the sanctions hurt the west as well.

Otherwise this is the beginning of a cold war between west and Central Asian east.
 

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Thosr countries should orient towards Turkic world seeking investment from both side without picking side. It’s going to be tough to juggle but can be done.

It can be achieved with soft power to an large extent. But requires capable economy. We need a long term plan to lower Russian influence and prop up their armed forces without ticking Russia off.
 

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What most people also don't realize is that Russia has already accumulated a sufficient number of war ships in the Black Sea region. Closing the straits this late during the war is not going to have any effect on the current course of events - not even in the slightest - but we would hurt our national interests in the long term massively.......
no, on the contrary. Now the Russians no longer have support ships in the Mediterranean. And what is collected in the Black Sea is no longer allowed to go to the Mediterranean.

Do you know what that means? Very difficult days for the Russians in Syria, for this so-called field marshal in Libya, for Wagner in the whole of Africa. This is the beginning of the end of a Russian dream for the warm Mediterranean.
 

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President Erdogan:

"I have told you many times before that the world is going through a radical change. The age-old management process is now changing. We were the country that was on the menu before, not on the table. The point of the current global management and security system is obvious."

"We consider the Russian attack unacceptable. We will use Montreux to prevent the crisis."

"We will not ignore the regional and global balances without compromising our national interests. We will not give up on Ukraine or Russia."
 

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President Erdogan:

"I have told you many times before that the world is going through a radical change. The age-old management process is now changing. We were the country that was on the menu before, not on the table. The point of the current global management and security system is obvious."

"We consider the Russian attack unacceptable. We will use Montreux to prevent the crisis."

"We will not ignore the regional and global balances without compromising our national interests. We will not give up on Ukraine or Russia."

Lolt the sanctions mean he can't trade with Russia, what does this guy even mean
 

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China + I suppose the west will descalate once he takes Kiev, the sanctions hurt the west as well.

Otherwise this is the beginning of a cold war between west and Central Asian east.


West will survive and Russia will bankrupt, China will do nothing they will sell Russia out.
 

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Latin America, Central Asia and Russia could switch to Chinese CIPS system instead of SWIFT, which is good for China
 

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