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Indeed, I was using all steel construction as the "best" case scenario here (survivability etc given its superior strength and overall material properties). Moskva would be of that traditional generation as well.

Everything doubly and triply applies etc for aluminium being used in significant parts or even the superstructure basis...not sure if any hulls are made (at this relative size class i.e frigates, destroyers, cruisers etc.) out of Al alloy, @Anmdt would be in better position to know


Useful reference for interested members regd steel vs aluminium in warships:

By the by, and freakishly coincidentally.... acquaintance of mine served on USS Belknap (mentioned in this paper a few times given its aluminium superstructure and accident's effect on it as case study)

Seeing what happened with Moskva, he told me this earlier:

Part of me has a slight twinge of sorrow seeing that particular ship go down because we (Belknap) and then-Slava were together at Malta in 1989 for the Presidential Summit.

A nice looking ship then and we had some limited exchanges on board each ship.

Obviously none of either crew is still in service.

Now both ships are reefs.

In closing - good shooting Ukrainians!!

In 2017 i got a chance to visit her sister, Varyag, honestly i am impressed by her. Well with what happened to her sister Moskva, what i can said is, all is fair during the war especially the Russian who started the mess first.

I just hope the war can be ended soon. And all of Russia know how grave their collective mistake this time
 

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*at 1:05 a SOS signal was given from the Russian cruiser "Moscow"
*at 1:14 cruise ship was lying on the side ,
*at 1:44 all power went out.
*As of 2 o'clock at night, a Turkish ship evacuated 54 sailors from the cruise ship
*at around 3 o'clock at midnight Turkey and Romania reported that the ship had completely sank.

In Russian news, this ship is still sailing and everything is fine with it. Related Russian
personnel losses are not yet known, although there were 485 people on the ship.
(66 of them soldiers).
 

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If this is indeed a delivery of TB2's it means they have no more tb2's left in their inventory. They pretty much all got destroyed.
Not necessarily, Ukraine didn't have all that many TB2s in their inventory to begin with. They seem to be gearing up for some major offensive operations, which might require a greater amount of heavy firepower.
 

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Treat each other with respect,no name calling no insults.
No more warnings,immediate ban.
Or maybe they are preparing a large number of TB2s for an all-out offensive

Rumors indicate that Ukraine is planning an all-out offensive in kherson in the near future now that the Russian air cover; i-e, Moskva is gone. This would require TB2s in large numbers operating on several fronts at the same time to ensure that the russians dont have the opportunity to regroup and set up a defensive line within the city

Again, this isnt a certainity but a possibility no more; since, if all of Ukraine's TB2s got shot down, Russia would immediately show pictures of its wreckage to the media since the TB2 practically humiliated all of Russian air defences (apart from the S400), all of Russian tanks and APCs, and Electronic warfare vehicles

Rn, thanks to TB2, most of Russian defence exports would be thrown to the dustbin. Certainly, the Russians would love to reverse that

Ukraine should have more tb2.In fact hundreds more!!..lol..
 

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According to information published by the "National Post" website on April 11, 2022, The Canadian Government has announced a new aid of $500 million to provide military equipment and armored vehicles to Ukraine, including LAV 8x8 and Roshel Senator APC 4x4 Armored Personnel Carrier vehicles.


@DAVEBLOGGINS @Ted Barnes et al.
Hope these vehicles help Ukraine out!! They deserve all the help we can give them!:mad:
 

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Tweets with destroyed Russian tanks, trucks, choppers, jets and other junk are now so common that they aren't even interesting to see anymore.

Now anything less than Moskva, Orsk, a destroyed Russian base or a Belgorod type attack is just boring to watch. Ukrainians are spoiling us way too much. :D
 

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Tweets with destroyed Russian tanks, trucks, choppers, jets and other junk are now so common that they aren't even interesting to see anymore.

Now anything less than Moskva, Orsk, a destroyed Russian base or a Belgorod type attack is just boring to watch. Ukrainians are spoiling us way too much. :D

Russian amassed between 800-1000 MBT, hundreds of Grad, SPH and other stuff for decisive action in the east they want to secure Donbass region get a hold on Slavyank all the way to Izyum, meanwhile Ukraine Army too want to liberated Kharkiv oblast and get Izyum securing the highway to Donbass and Drive out Russian army from there. Ukraine Armed Forces too amassed large number material there and raids started to be happened in the East. My bet there would be another Battle of Kursk happened there in around East Ukraine.
 

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