Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War
- Thread starter Kartal1
- Start date
Tornadoss
Contributor
- Messages
- 1,376
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
How dare Ukrainians defending their country, and not submitting. Shame on them.
Ecderha
Experienced member
- Messages
- 4,552
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
The perpetrators of the [Bucha] massacre along Yablunska Street were Russian paratroopers from the 234th Air Assault Regiment led by Lt. Col. Artyom Gorodilov”
GoatsMilk
Experienced member
- Messages
- 3,449
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
I think what people tend to forget about the NAZI's and Ukraine is that Ukraine was under brutal and oppressive russian dictatorship, millions of their people murdered brutally by the Russian regime, so when the NAZI's turned up and removed the Russians they were seen as liberators.
Which really goes to show how evil and abhorrent morally and culturally Russia is that when the NAZI's turned up they were perceived in such a positive light comparatively to their Russian oppressors.
Which really goes to show how evil and abhorrent morally and culturally Russia is that when the NAZI's turned up they were perceived in such a positive light comparatively to their Russian oppressors.
E
Russia's aircraft carrier has made a goodwill gesture and set itself on fire. Again.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russias-unfortunate-aircraft-carrier-has-caught-fire-again
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russias-unfortunate-aircraft-carrier-has-caught-fire-again
AWP
Contributor
- Messages
- 688
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Also Putin :
- Killed tens thousands innocent people in Chechnya .
- Destroyed an entire country ( Chechnya )
- Killed hundred of thousands innocent Syrians
- Supporting a the dictator regime of Syria
- Helped the Libyan dictator Haftar in Libya
- Always crying about his nuclear trinity and seriousness to use it
- Messages
- 1,399
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
-yeah i guess PKK are innocent people to, we should let them take a territory away from Turkey to call it kurdistan
-Chechnya is a country? What about Kurdistan?
- you upset that funding the FSA led to nowhere? Don't think ISIS is innocent.
-cant mossad the assad
-Gadaffi was accused of this as well.
-only claiming the west would use it.
Bravo. You distorted the content and turned it into another meaning with visual perception. You sound like a very professional propagandist.
But what you wrote does not describe the suffering of innocent people like the content you changed the meaning of. He even ignores those innocent suffering people.
- Messages
- 1,806
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
USA is going to pass another spending bill that includes $44 Billion for Ukraine and Eastern Europe in 2023.
- $20 Billion of that money is earmarked for direct military aid to Ukraine.
- $6 Billion earmarked to bolster U.S. military presence in NATO countries in Eastern Europe.
- $13 Billion is earmarked to stabilize Ukraine's economy through the first part of 2023.
- The remainder will be used to help Ukrainian refugees and provide humanitarian support in Eastern Europe.
www.google.com
$20 Billion is a lot more dead Russians. By time that is essentially matched by the remaining NATO members, the EU and allies (such as Australia), Ukraine is in line for about $40 Billion in military support in 2023. As the weapons systems Ukraine is allowed to procure become increasingly more sophisticated and capable and as their advanced training abroad continues to increase the abilities of their fighting force, Russia casualties will be through the roof. Especially as Russians will be lesser trained than their original army (as they hastily bring more warm bodies to the front) and their equipment actuallt gets worse, rather than better (see the old kit they're pulling out of storage).
A small sampling of some of the goodies I expect Ukraine to get in 2023....
- Multiple Patriot Air Defense systems from the United States.
- The remaining 4 NASAMs systems from the United States that were procured in 2022.
- Multiple SAMP-T air defense systems from France and Italy.
- Multiple IRIS-T SLM systems previously announced by Germany.
- A small quantity of Leopard 2 Tanks.
- 100-150, T-72 tanks from the USA / Netherlands (through the Czech Republic,) as well as spare parts from Morocco, to fix some exisiting / captured Russian T-72s in Ukraine's inventory.
- The remainder of Slovaki's Mig-29 fighter jets and possibly Poland's as well. In total, about 30 of them, which will be replaced by American modern block F-16s.
- JDAM guided bombs that can be retrofitted to Ukrainians fighter / bombers.
- 12-20 more Caesar, 155mm howitzers, originally intended for sale to Denmark.
- 24+ additional, refurbished 155mm M109 howitzers, from exisiting stockpiles in Europe. Namely places like Italy, Norway and Great Britain, where they are being fixed up.
- The remaining 50'ish Krab, 155mm howitzers from Poland.
- Several of the Panzerhaubitze 2000, 155mm howitzers that were ordered from a Germany.
- Quiet procurement of advanced "toys" from Turkey and Poland.
- Hundreds of thousands of rounds of 152mm, 122mm, GRAD rockets and 125mm tank rounds, to be used in Ukraine's legacy (Soviet era) weapons. Some of it will be made, in secret, inside Ukraine, while the Eastern European countries that still use it ramp up production as well, to keep Ukraine's Russian made weapons in the fight.
- Hundreds of thousands of 155mm artillery rounds (including thousands of Excalibur GPS guided rounds) from the collective West, as well as millions upon millions of rounds of small arms munition , mortar rounds, etc.
- $20 Billion of that money is earmarked for direct military aid to Ukraine.
- $6 Billion earmarked to bolster U.S. military presence in NATO countries in Eastern Europe.
- $13 Billion is earmarked to stabilize Ukraine's economy through the first part of 2023.
- The remainder will be used to help Ukrainian refugees and provide humanitarian support in Eastern Europe.
Congress Proposes More Than $44 Billion for Ukraine (Published 2022)
The spending bill unveiled Tuesday includes billions more for the country than President Biden had requested.
$20 Billion is a lot more dead Russians. By time that is essentially matched by the remaining NATO members, the EU and allies (such as Australia), Ukraine is in line for about $40 Billion in military support in 2023. As the weapons systems Ukraine is allowed to procure become increasingly more sophisticated and capable and as their advanced training abroad continues to increase the abilities of their fighting force, Russia casualties will be through the roof. Especially as Russians will be lesser trained than their original army (as they hastily bring more warm bodies to the front) and their equipment actuallt gets worse, rather than better (see the old kit they're pulling out of storage).
A small sampling of some of the goodies I expect Ukraine to get in 2023....
- Multiple Patriot Air Defense systems from the United States.
- The remaining 4 NASAMs systems from the United States that were procured in 2022.
- Multiple SAMP-T air defense systems from France and Italy.
- Multiple IRIS-T SLM systems previously announced by Germany.
- A small quantity of Leopard 2 Tanks.
- 100-150, T-72 tanks from the USA / Netherlands (through the Czech Republic,) as well as spare parts from Morocco, to fix some exisiting / captured Russian T-72s in Ukraine's inventory.
- The remainder of Slovaki's Mig-29 fighter jets and possibly Poland's as well. In total, about 30 of them, which will be replaced by American modern block F-16s.
- JDAM guided bombs that can be retrofitted to Ukrainians fighter / bombers.
- 12-20 more Caesar, 155mm howitzers, originally intended for sale to Denmark.
- 24+ additional, refurbished 155mm M109 howitzers, from exisiting stockpiles in Europe. Namely places like Italy, Norway and Great Britain, where they are being fixed up.
- The remaining 50'ish Krab, 155mm howitzers from Poland.
- Several of the Panzerhaubitze 2000, 155mm howitzers that were ordered from a Germany.
- Quiet procurement of advanced "toys" from Turkey and Poland.
- Hundreds of thousands of rounds of 152mm, 122mm, GRAD rockets and 125mm tank rounds, to be used in Ukraine's legacy (Soviet era) weapons. Some of it will be made, in secret, inside Ukraine, while the Eastern European countries that still use it ramp up production as well, to keep Ukraine's Russian made weapons in the fight.
- Hundreds of thousands of 155mm artillery rounds (including thousands of Excalibur GPS guided rounds) from the collective West, as well as millions upon millions of rounds of small arms munition , mortar rounds, etc.
Tornadoss
Contributor
- Messages
- 1,376
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
No I am not. Here you are doing full Russian propaganda. Yes people suffering because Russia invaded their country starting from 2014. You can submit like a pussy cat if your country is invaded by others but clearly Ukrainians will not.
Last edited:
Gary
Experienced member
- Messages
- 8,361
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
The Admiral Kuznetsov gives you the idea of the Russian psyche. The carrier is broken, it rarely goes out to sea and when it does it's full of mishap. But the Russians won't let go because of the symbolism of having a carrier.
The USS Nimitz is around 50+ years old at the moment and its equipment are just running as smooth as when it first commissioned , by the time it retires sometime in 2025…it would be far more combat ready in its retirement schedule than when the Kuznetsov finally touches water again.
Gary
Experienced member
- Messages
- 8,361
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
This is funny because the SAA is by far the largest arms supplier to Isis in Syria.
Gary
Experienced member
- Messages
- 8,361
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Dmitry Rogozin's birthday party has been interupted
3
*"Since 2014"* !!!???, yes, here are you Türks, confused by the west, you don't know that the Crimean Tatar Türks have been living there for years. sometimes under pressure. But of course, being a Muslim Türk is of no importance to you. Christian westerner ukrainian is important for you. they have been annexed since 2014. What a pity!
clonda
Committed member
- Messages
- 197
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
I would not underestimate the mobilized army. For a number of reasons: according to statistics, these soldiers 4 out of 5 buy uniforms at their own expense, these soldiers know that they will fight and may die, they are ready, these soldiers are more motivated and mentally prepared, those. There will be no surprises for these soldiers that they ended up in the war, these soldiers were called up for military service for 1-2 years in the past.Do not be rash and do not think that the composition of the mobilized consists only of alcoholics. Believe me, anyone who really does not want to participate in this war will find a thousand and one ways not to come to the military enlistment office, or while this is not a big problem, the problem that the mobilized army will really face is the personnel shortage of officersUSA is going to pass another spending bill that includes $44 Billion for Ukraine and Eastern Europe in 2023.
- $20 Billion of that money is earmarked for direct military aid to Ukraine.
- $6 Billion earmarked to bolster U.S. military presence in NATO countries in Eastern Europe.
- $13 Billion is earmarked to stabilize Ukraine's economy through the first part of 2023.
- The remainder will be used to help Ukrainian refugees and provide humanitarian support in Eastern Europe.
Congress Proposes More Than $44 Billion for Ukraine (Published 2022)
The spending bill unveiled Tuesday includes billions more for the country than President Biden had requested.
$20 Billion is a lot more dead Russians. By time that is essentially matched by the remaining NATO members, the EU and allies (such as Australia), Ukraine is in line for about $40 Billion in military support in 2023. As the weapons systems Ukraine is allowed to procure become increasingly more sophisticated and capable and as their advanced training abroad continues to increase the abilities of their fighting force, Russia casualties will be through the roof. Especially as Russians will be lesser trained than their original army (as they hastily bring more warm bodies to the front) and their equipment actuallt gets worse, rather than better (see the old kit they're pulling out of storage).
A small sampling of some of the goodies I expect Ukraine to get in 2023....
- Multiple Patriot Air Defense systems from the United States.
- The remaining 4 NASAMs systems from the United States that were procured in 2022.
- Multiple SAMP-T air defense systems from France and Italy.
- Multiple IRIS-T SLM systems previously announced by Germany.
- A small quantity of Leopard 2 Tanks.
- 100-150, T-72 tanks from the USA / Netherlands (through the Czech Republic,) as well as spare parts from Morocco, to fix some exisiting / captured Russian T-72s in Ukraine's inventory.
- The remainder of Slovaki's Mig-29 fighter jets and possibly Poland's as well. In total, about 30 of them, which will be replaced by American modern block F-16s.
- JDAM guided bombs that can be retrofitted to Ukrainians fighter / bombers.
- 12-20 more Caesar, 155mm howitzers, originally intended for sale to Denmark.
- 24+ additional, refurbished 155mm M109 howitzers, from exisiting stockpiles in Europe. Namely places like Italy, Norway and Great Britain, where they are being fixed up.
- The remaining 50'ish Krab, 155mm howitzers from Poland.
- Several of the Panzerhaubitze 2000, 155mm howitzers that were ordered from a Germany.
- Quiet procurement of advanced "toys" from Turkiye and Poland.
- Hundreds of thousands of rounds of 152mm, 122mm, GRAD rockets and 125mm tank rounds, to be used in Ukraine's legacy (Soviet era) weapons. Some of it will be made, in secret, inside Ukraine, while the Eastern European countries that still use it ramp up production as well, to keep Ukraine's Russian made weapons in the fight.
- Hundreds of thousands of 155mm artillery rounds (including thousands of Excalibur GPS guided rounds) from the collective West, as well as millions upon millions of rounds of small arms munition , mortar rounds, etc.
