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Do you really believe this? I mean, is there anybody still believing what Putin says? Nobody needs to debunk what Putin says anymore, because he has lied so many times that nobody cares what he says now.
lot of peoples at first trust putin, but finally dead, poisoned :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Do you really believe this? I mean, is there anybody still believing what Putin says? Nobody needs to debunk what Putin says anymore, because he has lied so many times that nobody cares what he says now.
Ironically by trying to imply that Putin is lying, the only liar here is YOU.

The revelation that Ukraine backed down from the peace deal, comes first and foremost from Arestovych, who back then is Aide to Zelensky and an actual participant of the peace deal in Istanbul, not from Putin.


Now Ukraine is stuck in a perpetual war. 500.000 of their countrymen (and women) dead and the only one laughing is BlackRock. ANd the most bizzare things about this is the West, instead of admitting mistake decided to fuel the war even further by making sure there's enough weapons for Ukrainians to justify their sons to be sent to the front to be killed.

What a sick society.
 

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Do you really believe this? I mean, is there anybody still believing what Putin says? Nobody needs to debunk what Putin says anymore, because he has lied so many times that nobody cares what he says now.

He told this a few days ago via official canals at a great forum.

Zakharova repeated it.

They mentioned Erdogan and Zelensky.

The offices of Erdogan and Zelenskey didnt debunked it.

Foreign diplomacy is a very serious thing. When some head of state spreads fake news about a third country, the information mechanism of that third country wont snub it silently even if that head of state is a known liar.

They will always debunk or reject it officially.

So it is true.

500k Ukrainian men died for the cat's ass.

This war only benefits the great Western weapon producers.
 

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A good leader knows when he must fight and when not to fight. If you cant win a war, than there is no logic explanaition to fight because you are destroying yourself.

When it concerns Russia and Ukraine, to not fight more will die. Then once your occupied the life you live is utter hell, communist style hell. Russians only yesterday starved over 3 million Ukrainians to death. Trust, had Russia walked into Ukraine a massive purge would have taken place, maybe millions of Ukrainians would have perished.

From a Turkish perspective we cannot allow Russia to take any more land around the blacksea, the more they take the more energy and resources the Turks will have to allocated against Russia. It will limit our capacity to operate. And the bigger Russia grows the more she will interfere with Turkey and the higher the chance of war with Russia becomes.

As far as Ukraine is concerned they are doing really well, if they could just get some real weapons they could put this sick man of Eurasia to bed. Everyone would benefit from it, including the russians themselves who live a miserable existence.

Putin explained last week that Russia accepted every Ukrainian term in Istanbul in april 2022 when Erdogan brokered a peace deal. On everything was agreed, even on the status of Crimea the Russians made concessions.

And you believe Putin? Even if he did accept, he would break the deal the moment he could. As Turks we seen russian deals in syria, where nothing is stuck to. They make an agreement with you to placate you and then immediately shit on it to humiliate you. Rinse and repeat.

Both parties agreed, Turkey was the peacemaker and Erdogan would get a Nobel Price.

No western owned organisation is giving a hated islamist the peace prize. The western world has been dehumanising erdogan and Turkey for years not to just give that leader and that nation a nobel peace price.

And then Boris Johnson arrived in Kiev and told Zelensky to reject the deal.

No doubts the English will be shit stirring in the background, that's what they have done throughout history. A nation that always sticks her nose into other peoples business making things far worse. But Ukraine is in a desperate situation, she has to take whatever she can get.

The native Americans had the proverb, if you cross a stream and see the fish fighting, know that an Englishmen has passed. That's what the English do, they instigate trouble and conflict.

Even many conflicts today, whether it be kashmir, cyprus, the middle east have their roots in British engineering.

Ukraine and Turkey didnt debunked Putins claims this week. So it must be true.

Erdogan says plenty of nice things about Putin meanwhile he sends his armies and proxies to fight Russia in all theatres.
 

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Slovakia supports Hungary's veto of EUR 50 billion of aid for Ukraine​


Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico joined the veto of his Hungarian counterpart Viktor Orban on financial assistance to Ukraine in the amount of EUR 50 billion over four years, Reuters reports.​

The publication notes that during the joint press conference, Orban expressed the view that any financial mechanism for Ukraine should be separate from the EU budget, proposing the creation of a mechanism based on the distribution of assistance in accordance with gross national income. However, giving EUR 50 billion from the EU budget four years in advance is considered a violation of EU sovereignty and national interests.

According to Fico, Slovakia supports Hungary's position, and its government “would not support any measures limiting Budapest's rights inside the EU.” He also calls Orban's opposition to EU budget changes "legitimate" and says the Slovak government would back any proposals the Hungarian prime minister “has already put forward or will put forward."

As Ukrainian News Agency earlier reported, on December 15, Orban blocked the EU's allocation of EUR 50 billion for Ukraine.

Also on January 9, Finnish MEP Petri Sarvamaa initiated a petition to deprive Hungary of the right to vote in the Council of the European Union. On January 12, Sarvamaa announced that he had collected the necessary 120 signatures on a petition to deprive Hungary of the right to vote in the Council of the European Union.

The U.S. Department of State said it was "disappointed" by Orban's policy towards Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Budapest expressed its readiness to abandon the opposition regarding new long-term financing for Ukraine to the European Union.



 

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France 🇫🇷 has released compressive details regarding some of the military aid they will donate / provide to Ukraine throughout 2024. Below are the details.

78 additional CAESAR, 155mm howitzers: It was announced today that Ukraine purchased 6 additional CAESARS for immediate delivery. French arms manufacturer Nexter will provide 6-7 additional units to Ukraine each month, however, France wants the EU to share the cost burden and have multiple countries take turns paying for the units to be shipped. France will foot the bill for the first 12 (beyond the 6 Ukraine has purchased) and will be looking for EU members to find the the next 60 units.

300 AASM long range, GPS guided bomb kits: The French will send Ukraine 50 AASM per month in 2024, from their own inventories. They will replace the older units they send with new AASMs as they send them.

40 SCALP-EG cruise missiles: France has committed to sending the much needed cruise missiles at an undisclosed rate, but all will arrive in 2024.
 

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A good leader knows when he must fight and when not to fight. If you cant win a war, than there is no logic explanaition to fight because you are destroying yourself.

Putin explained last week that Russia accepted every Ukrainian term in Istanbul in april 2022 when Erdogan brokered a peace deal. On everything was agreed, even on the status of Crimea the Russians made concessions.

Both parties agreed, Turkey was the peacemaker and Erdogan would get a Nobel Price.

And then Boris Johnson arrived in Kiev and told Zelensky to reject the deal.

Ukraine and Turkey didnt debunked Putins claims this week. So it must be true.
That's is because you cannot trust Russians. Period. Ukrainians fight for their homeland and not every woman, man and child to starve to death again. Isn't that worth dying for?

What are the Russians dying? The resurrection of a comatose empire.
 

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Bradley destroyed putin's tank King T90M, and the 25mm small gun showed its power.

At end of the video you will hear and see short cut of putin himself. He saying that ruzzian tank T90M is the most powerful tank in World and when enter in fight there is nothing which can stop it with 100% success. 🤡


One thing is True though and it is that ruzzians are 100% liars. They just do not-stop lies and propaganda.
Issue is that there are many people in the world that believe them :rolleyes:
 
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Bradley destroyed putin's tank King T90M, and the 20mm small gun showed its power.

At end of the video you will hear and see short cut of putin himself. He saying that ruzzian tank T90M is the most powerful tank in World and when enter in fight there is nothing which can stop it with 100% success. 🤡


One thing is True though and it is that ruzzians are 100% liars. They just do not-stop lies and propaganda.
Issue is that there are many people in the world that believe them :rolleyes:
Look at the 25mm caliber. I wouldn't expect it. Turkish Land Force knows its shit 💪 if Turkish Army prefers , it means: it works.
 

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Look at the 25mm caliber. I wouldn't expect it. Turkish Land Force knows its shit 💪 if Turkish Army prefers , it means: it works.
The sad reality is that USA has more than 2500 Bradleys in storage and has 700 A4 models on order, with an open order to double that number if need be.

USA sent Ukraine 186 Bradleys, of which, 60-70 have been damaged and or destroyed, but they've been fantastic in their "tip of the spear" defensive role. They can easily send 300-400 more in 2024 and it wouldn't impact their fighting force at all. The ODS models that they have sent and would continue to send, are going to be stored, with no plans for future use in the U.S. Army.

It would only cost USA $1-1.2 Billion usd to send Ukraine an additional 300 Bradleys. And by cost, I mean vehicle value, not additional funds that would have to be spent given that they were paid for years ago and are in storage.
 
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Ironically by trying to imply that Putin is lying, the only liar here is YOU.

The revelation that Ukraine backed down from the peace deal, comes first and foremost from Arestovych, who back then is Aide to Zelensky and an actual participant of the peace deal in Istanbul, not from Putin.


Now Ukraine is stuck in a perpetual war. 500.000 of their countrymen (and women) dead and the only one laughing is BlackRock. ANd the most bizzare things about this is the West, instead of admitting mistake decided to fuel the war even further by making sure there's enough weapons for Ukrainians to justify their sons to be sent to the front to be killed.

What a sick society.
Arestovich was neither Zelensky's aide nor a participant in the peace negotiations. He is a blogger and was an unpaid communications advisor to the Office of the President. The Office of the President is the entirety of the Ukrainian federal apparatus working for the President, consisting of thousands of employees. He was not part of the negotiations by anyone's admission other than his own. Arestovich is well-known in Ukraine for his pseudo-science seminars for young people about relationships. He has at this point claimed so many outrageous things that everyone has lost track, he's like Ukraine's Dan Bilzerian. You're selecting terrible sources because they say what you want to hear.
 

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Bradley destroyed putin's tank King T90M, and the 25mm small gun showed its power.

At end of the video you will hear and see short cut of putin himself. He saying that ruzzian tank T90M is the most powerful tank in World and when enter in fight there is nothing which can stop it with 100% success. 🤡


One thing is True though and it is that ruzzians are 100% liars. They just do not-stop lies and propaganda.
Issue is that there are many people in the world that believe them :rolleyes:

Bradley fires did not penetrate. It was hit by a FPV drone. There is a longer video of this.
 

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The sad reality is that USA has more than 2500 Bradleys in storage and has 700 A4 models on order, with an open order to double that number if need be.

USA sent Ukraine 186 Bradleys, of which, 60-70 have been damaged and or destroyed, but they've been fantastic in their "tip of the spear" defensive role. They can easily send 300-400 more in 2024 and it wouldn't impact their fighting force at all. The ODS models that they have sent and would continue to send, are going to be stored, with no plans for future use in the U.S. Army.

It would only cost USA $1-1.2 Billion usd to send Ukraine an additional 300 Bradleys. And by cost, I mean vehicle value, not additional funds that would have to be spent given that they were paid for years ago and are in storage.
Australia intends to burie in to the ground nh 90 helicopters. Australia is not willing to hand them over to Ukraine.
The last accident with nh90 showed , that human error was involved. Out of 500 nhl 90 helicopters, there has been 11 accidents.
At the moment Australian army has no any transport helicopters.
Now all this is a bit confusing. On one hand, why buy the helicopters than do anything in its power to discredit the original manufacturer, the second question is why not to donate them. I know Australian Government is claiming that nh 90 ain't flight worthy but at least. If it is true at all, can they take the parts from some helicopters and install them to other.
Or maybe, a part of this affair is that, besides damaging Russia, Anglo Saxons want to damage Europeans?
 

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I'm not known for joking and I actually think 100 times before I declared that Ukraine is fighting for Black Rock, but here's an EU MP, practically doubling down what I said before.


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Orban is now the only force of democracy in Europe trying to stop this madness from spreading.

500.000 dead, many more wounded. For Black Rock ?
 

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