Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[FiReFTW]

Zelensky just made (most of) his "victory plan" public, and it's predictably pretty laughable and showing he still doesn't get it.

Zelensky is a clown bro, what did you expect?

 

[Relic]

Two new significant military aid packages for Ukraine were announced today by USA and Australia .

USA announced a new $425 million usd military aid for Ukraine. The package consists of the following:

- AIM-9X Missiles (NASAMS)
- AIM-120 Missiles (NASAMS)
- RIM-7 Missiles (FrankenSAM)
- JSOW Medium Range Missiles
- Stinger Air Defense Missiles
- GMLRS (HIMARS)
- TOW Missiles (Bradleys)
- 155mm Artillery Shells
- 105mm Artillery Shells
- Javelin Anti-Armor Missiles
- AT-4 Anti-Armor Rockets
- HMMWVS Mobility Vehicles
- Small Arms
- Small Arms Ammunition
- Grenades
- Thermal Imagining Devices
- Demolitions Equipment
- Spare Parts and Ancillary Equipment

Australia announced a new military aid package for Ukraine consisting of the following:

- 49x M1A1 Abrams MBTs

Biden Administration Announces Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine

The U.S. has committed more than $59.8B in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden administration, including approximately $59.1B billion since the beginning of Russia's

www.defense.gov

Australia will send 49 old tanks to Ukraine, more than a year after they first asked for them

The announcement was welcomed by Ukraine's ambassador to Australia, Vasyl Myroshnychenko.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SilverMachine]

Becoming more and more evident with each month unfortunately, Fire, yup.

The fact he thinks this is ending without Ukraine ceding any territory to Russia at all, at this point is just...yeah, he's not a serious person. And unless he wants to elaborate on whatever this "non-nuclear deterrence" concept is, it's daydreaming - can't even fathom what that would be short of stationing a shitload of troops inside Ukraine from the NATO that Ukraine's never going to be allowed to join in the first place.

Relic, the most newsworthy part of this new-aid-for-Ukraine thing that happens literally every month is that Biden still won't cave to Zelensky's "let us fire high-end U.S. weapons into Russia for offensive purposes" bullshit. Way more telling than the missiles & rifles and 30 year old Australian (not-even-upgraded/modernized, to my knowledge) Abrams which'll probably be easy fodder. Biden's senile, but he hasn't lost it entirely. Let's see what Kamala does, she'll probably approve something like that just for the photo-op and the social media likes, without even grasping the second-and-third-step repercussions.

 

[Soldier30]

Continuation of the battle with an unknown APC and two tanks in the Kursk region of Russia. The situation has become clearer, in short, the APC was indeed Russian, and the tanks were Ukrainian. A shot from the second Ukrainian tank finally destroyed the APC. The APC crew left the combat vehicle, as was shown earlier. The Ukrainian tank was subsequently destroyed, how is not reported, most likely by drones, the fate of the tank crew is also unknown. The second tank left the scene of the battle, there is no further information about it.

 

[Lool]

Yup, I was right after all
Ukraine is on the brink of losing the war and the West is gonna suck up what can be siphoned from Ukraine before it falls into Russia's hands

Kursk frontline have collapsed and Russia regained 50% of what it lost to Ukraine. Russia is also on the verge of taking both Selidove and Toretsk with Pokrovsk being a lost cause as well

Rumors of a new Kherson-Zaporizhya-Kharkiv offensive by Russia post-Pokrovsk

And videos are emerging regarding Ukrainian recruitment officers barging into high class night parties amd weddings to conscript whom they can; i-e, they are now trying to mobilise the high class of Ukraine

Then this pops up...... Ukraine is getting destroyed thx to a fqing jewish clown..... because of only 1 man, a whole nation got destroyed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846880423043125675

 

[SilverMachine]

Yeah. Been thinking this has been done for a while now, but the longer it goes on the more accurate that seems to be.

It sort of feels like things might transition from the "surround myself with Yes Men and only take on board the good news" to something a little more pragmatic in the near future. I don't think the Ukrainians will turn against Zelensky and oust him or anything, but he's going to start feeling the pressure to come back down out of the clouds and put his feet on the ground, face facts.

 

[UkroTurk]

Zelensky to Trump: Ukraine will either join NATO or have nuclear weapons



17.10.24



In September, Zelensky met with Trump

In particular, Trump agreed with Zelensky's arguments regarding why Ukraine chooses the Alliance over nuclear weapons.


"For its own security, Ukraine must either become a member of NATO or must have nuclear weapons. "President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke about this with US presidential candidate Donald Trump during their meeting in September.

Thus, speaking today at a press conference in Brussels, Zelensky told how he spoke with Donald Trump about NATO using the example of the Budapest Memorandum, when Ukraine renounced nuclear weapons.

"It seems to me that this is a clear example. Ukraine had the Budapest Memorandum. There were nuclear states there. The largest states in the world that have influence, have nuclear weapons. Among these, of course, were the United States of America, China, Russia, France. Undoubtedly major players that have nuclear potential," Zelensky said.

Пресконференція Володимира Зеленського за підсумками участі в засіданні Європейської ради

Пресконференція Президента України Володимира Зеленського за підсумками участі в засіданні Європейської ради.

www.youtube.com

We never said that we wanted to create nuclear weapons, - Zelensky



20:10, 17.10.24



The President explained what he meant by the Budapest Memorandum

Zelensky also said that an invitation to NATO would strengthen Ukraine diplomatically and bring a just peace closer.



Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky assured that Ukraine never said that it wanted to create nuclear weapons. He made this statement during a joint briefing with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.

The President explained that he was talking about the Budapest Memorandum, when Ukraine renounced nuclear weapons, but did not receive the promised security guarantees in return.

"I spoke about the Budapest Memorandum, which states that Ukraine receives security guarantees. But this is not an umbrella and we have no options other than NATO. We do not build nuclear weapons," he added.

 

[contricusc]

I think Zelensky speaking about nuclear weapons is a wanring to the West. He is basically saying: “If you don’t accept Ukraine in NATO, we have no other option but to pursue nuclear weapons.”

His mention of nuclear weapons is also a warning to those who think that Ukraine will simply accept a Russian victory and give up. They won’t.